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Post by CaveBearOG on Nov 12, 2016 17:02:19 GMT -5
well thats a Hilary move....."im taking my ball and going home" ...lol...smh. Come on CB, you're better than that. I get a bigger kick out of you than almost anyone on this forum. I'm sure you've gotten sick of hearing certain people's shit and realized it wasn't worth wasting your time listening to idiots who give you headaches. What I did was give him a walk off KO, in more ways than just pointing out that he's a man in his 30s (or 40s? who cares) who once admittedly forgot to wipe his ass and then went to work with shit in his drawers (and usually if you're the type to make that kind of mistake you've done it MORE than once LOL...) and thinks that doesn't disqualify him from having anything intelligent to say HAHAHAA. It was a Mark Hunt move, not a Hilary move.Every word I said was true. I never really brought any true ill will into this thread till he did. I said I disagreed with some people, but I didn't get disrespectful like he did once and you know that's not my style. When someone does it, I hand them their ass and then decide I'm no longer engaging with them, because they are no longer worth it. I just see no reason why I should ever have to listen to words out of the mouth of someone that stupid again, and really, I think it's bad for my brain, so I'm done with that. Now I'm honestly glad this election is over. We'll see if Trump destroys America like I'm thinking he will, but if he DOESN'T and actually does a half way decent job or even a GOOD job, I'll be HAPPY cause I live in the same country you do. I'm better off not being in these political threads anyway as I hate arguments and everyone knows I do. I'm here cause I love MMA and bullshitting with some mostly cool people. You've got my respect bear cause you are a fun loving cool guy to talk to. Garth doesn't. And I'm done with talking to anyone not worth my time. i was bustin balls. plus the Hunt reference is awesome....lol.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2016 17:08:18 GMT -5
You know (and IF he responds I am NOT going to read it) what I don't get about Garth is WHY when I never insulted ANYONE and just said I didn't understand why so many people were happy that more than half of those who voted are unhappy and scared of Trump as a president and that it bothered me, that he would be the ONLY person to personally attack me and insult me in so many ways.
Oc, Baph, Norcal and a lot of other people disagree with what I said, but none of them ATTACKED me PERSONALLY, they just explained why they disagreed and didn't like MY OPINIONS, not why they didn't like ME.
You'd think I'd have said that everyone who voted for Trump deserves to die by his INSANELY angry response lol.
And he's done this in the past too: I or someone else will just say something he disagrees with and then he'll go CRAZY attacking them on a PERSONAL level when they never said anything attacking him, or really attacking anyone, just saying something he disagreed with.
Garth, I know you don't give a shit, and I'm NOT going to read your response, and I'm actually amazed I am actually giving ADVICE to someone I dislike so vehemently but:
Maybe you'd have less anger if you experimented with some psychedelics??
Lord Abortion will attest to the fact that they CAN, when used properly, allow you to kind of perceive some things in a different way and help with being a more relaxed person.
For me, shrooms are like the most peaceful drug on earth.
If I'm on them I can't be angry at anyone unless they like attacked me or my family LOL.
So I suggest if you can find any shrooms, LSD, or any other psychedelic, that you give it a shot, if you haven't already, and maybe you'll become a less pissed off person (assuming you actually WANT to be less pissed off, which I don't even think you do...)
My guess is you have probably already tripped before and it didn't have that effect on you, but maybe it's worth another shot.
I mean I have some anger issues myself, but yours are like one BILLION times worse than mine.
It must be pretty hard on your blood pressure and mind and body in general to be so pissed and honestly I wouldn't wish that on ANYONE short of Hitler, I'm not even sure I'd wish it on Trump.
That shit can eventually lead to heart attacks and strokes.
You smoke weed, but I guess it doesn't calm you down enough not to attack people who have said nothing offensive to you, or maybe it can but you are just never high when you launch all these personal attacks at people who never insulted you in the first place.
So obviously I really don't like you, and you don't care, and you really don't like me, and I don't care, but the one thing I will wish for you is that you could become a less extremely angry pissed off person (I also hope you stop being a bigot, but that's DEFINITELY NOT happening LOL).
I don't wish for bad things to happen to you (like you probably do for me) and I'll say if SOMEHOW I found out you'd become a less pissed off hateful (and less racist) person, I'd probably feel happy for you, but I'd still never want to hear another word you say/write.
So go try and see if you can find some shrooms or LSD and maybe see if it changes your perspective on being so hateful (or don't and ignore my suggestion, which you probably will).
Don't forget, I will NOT be reading your response or anything you ever say again, but if I were you I'd wonder why I like to attack people who haven't personally insulted me so much, and why you seem to have such a complete INABILITY to just chill and not do that shit.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2016 17:21:10 GMT -5
P.S. If you can't find shrooms on the street (I always have trouble) you can legally buy the spores and learn to grow them yourself, which I am almost definitely going to do in the future, and it's not even THAT expensive to get a whole set up with a tub, all the lights you'd need and all the other shit.
I think it might cost like $150 or so for everything you need, and The Shroomery site will tell you what you need.
It is 100% legal to buy the spores, just don't get caught with the shrooms yourself or you are FUCKED.
The Shroomery is an EXCELLENT site that tells you everything you need to know about how to grow your own from start to finish, keep them fresh, etc.
Shrooms are REALLY safe, non-toxic, (MUCH safer than LSD) and I mean the worst danger is that you can POSSIBLY overdose if you eat like more than an ounce so I wouldn't advise that, or that you do something crazy under the influence.
I think only like maybe 20 people EVER in history, or maybe less, have overdosed.
I've only personally heard one story of it happening but it CAN happen potentially.
Otherwise, they are not addictive, and really don't hurt your body.
And you can even microdose, just taking really small amounts like less than a gram on a regular basis and just feel more chill without actually hallucinating or anything, and though I still wouldn't advise driving even on a small amount, you can go about your day on those low doses and do normal shit and most people won't know you are on anything.
To actually TRIP BALLS, at least an eighth is required, but I never trip as hard as I want off that amount, so if I ever somehow get them again, I'd take either 5 grams or a whole quarter.
They are really a great substance, and should be legal IMO (well I think ALL drugs should be legal).
But they might not help you at all, they aren't a miracle pill, nothing is.
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Post by slaytan on Nov 12, 2016 18:30:33 GMT -5
It's hilarious to see toehold lecturing about anger after his sputtering diatribes. Nobody who knows me in real life describes me as angry. More silly and even happy go lucky (until they friend me on Facebook).
I wish I could do some shrooms with toehold, except that he would probably worship me too hard afterwards
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Post by Angelo on Nov 12, 2016 18:55:04 GMT -5
I will read them, and I'll also respond to your other questions later when I have more time. But regardless of what the emails say, the FBI let her go, and I believe that means she didn't have any confidential material in them and didn't break the law in that case. I don't believe she paid the FBI off or anything like that. I am totally willing, IF I find out about things Hilary has done wrong that can be 110% PROVEN, to change certain opinions. But I will NEVER like Trump or ever say I'd have voted for him if I could go back in time. This isn't about her anymore anyway. She's out of the picture. This is about if Trump will be a good president or not, or do things to ruin the country, which I am concerned he might. But the only thing I am hopeful about is that he might end up being more of a puppet, and that more moderate republicans surrounding him might make a lot of decisions for him. Thanks for being respectful with your questions, comments. First off, the FBI has came out and said that she had and transferred confidential material, and top secret material, including keyhole information (the keyhole shit is what set all this off) in e-mails to not only people without security clearance, but through non-secure servers. The FBI said they don't suggest charges because there was "no intent" to cause harm. Now in the past that has never mattered, and since, but in her case it did, so the question becomes why? Second off, Trump has already revised his plan on healthcare to be more in line with what already here with the ACA, and his statements in the past pre-campaign, which are quite liberal. Third off, you don't need to like a person for them to be good at the job. This is also a HUGE reasons for the female turnout for Trump even after his behavior and statements, they were able to see someone can wear two hats. And as Michael Moore pointed out, Trump supporters probably aren't racist, at least not most of them since the voter turnouts showed that a huge chunk of the people who voted "for a black guy named Hussein twice". Fourth, Trump is actually probably screwed by the Republican controlled Senate and House. He would have been on much better footing with them split as he's far from either party, which would have made bipartisanship easier as it will be needed to get his ideas across. Finally, what happens if Trump really did troll both parties and comes out as the "liberal leaning moderate" that history has made him to be which is in line with an overwhelming majority of America? Will you still hate and not vote for him in 4 years? Or you willing to keep open mind enough to see what is gonna happen?
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Post by daywork on Nov 12, 2016 19:17:42 GMT -5
The FBI also said if it was any one else they would've pressed charges. Clinton's staff, took hammers to computers and phones after the fbi asked for them. They used bleachbit to wipe out hard drives. They asked for immunity on damages (and got it). There was some major shady ass shit going on.
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Post by slaytan on Nov 12, 2016 19:24:39 GMT -5
So now we know toehold's problem, which is that he can't handle psychedelics
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Post by rovpitviper on Nov 12, 2016 20:05:31 GMT -5
So after the big election thought I'd check in with my thoughts:
First and foremost I am a registered Independent and voted for Johnson. I know...throwaway vote and all that, but to be quite clear: NEITHER candidate was worth a shit. You had a 30 year corrupt politician vs. a reality tv show 4 time bankrupt "businessman" born with a silver spoon in his mouth. Sorry but that is world class suck and I'm not putting my vote to either.
As for anyone thinking they won or lost...uh nobody won and everyone lost. Plain and simple. And that isn't me saying Trump will be bad. Just "we the people" still aren't being represented on any level. No 30 year politician knows what we are about and no 1%'r even remotely is clued in to the problems "we the people" have. So there is no win here.
Now I will walk that back a half step to freely admit that Trump winning is good for one thing - watching the out of control media eat shit and have to like it. As I watched the returns on election night and the cold reality sink in on these media types who were laughing at the beginning of the night I had that nice warm feeling usually reserved for reading a GarthKKKnight post...you just know its going to be entertaining and you can't look away at the self defeat throughout as he (and they) know they are in a corner with no way out and start doing what rats do....eat each other. So thank you President Elect Trump for that if nothing else. Made my night and the next day seeing a lot of liberals hunched over the next day.
The riots you ask? Made me angry as the process we use to elect a President ran its course and we are supposed to respect that result. Fuck them. But also I can remember two previous elections with the other side doing the same thing, even questioning President Obama's birth right (including one Donald Trump) as a way to get around the result. So fuck you too. Just because your side didn't win doesn't mean you now get to ignore the constitution to try and get your side to win. So yes liberal dems suck these past few days for their protests, and the Reps were just as bad when they lost to President Obama.
We are still playing my football team won instead of our country won. I find the irony of celebrating on either side amusing, especially when it was lower to middle class working America who decided this, screaming that we stuck it to the man when we put a 1%'r in office. Irony much? We all know that the promises made aren't going to be lived up to (The Wall, repeal in total the ACA, push 11M people out the door, put Hillary in jail, etc.) so why is everyone jumping around all happy like any of that is going to happen?
I can tell you what is going to happen - those same working class people in 4-8 years (depending on who the Dems roll out in 2020) are going to do another mass push out of everyone in office (just like we saw after Bush Jr. was done and Obama walked in) and then the other football team is going to be jumping around like a bunch of idiots while the incumbents will moan and groan about the end of the world and trying to ignore the constitution to get their candidate in (illegally).
So there you go - "we the people" didn't win jack shit this week. What we won was another eat this pile of shit from the ruling class elite while less than half of [insert winning party here] celebrate and the other slightly larger than half of [insert losing party here] cries while neither side understands that we all lost.
Baph is closest to this so far, although he is slightly biased (maybe in relief?) against the side that was in power being knocked out. Forget who is sitting on the throne currently and look at the players around it guys. We still lost. All of us.
Cheers.
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Post by Angelo on Nov 12, 2016 20:09:40 GMT -5
Baph is closest to this so far, although he is slightly biased (maybe in relief?) against the side that was in power being knocked out. Forget who is sitting on the throne currently and look at the players around it guys. We still lost. All of us. Cheers. This is I think the one saving grace anyone on either side of the aisle can agree on... Trump in office means a scramble for both parties come midterms. Traditional financing and campaigning is all fucked up for the midterms, potentially the next election and midterms and potentially election following that. That makes it harder for the career politicians to keep office, and harder for the corrupt ones to succeed in taking seats.
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Post by adamg01 on Nov 12, 2016 20:26:35 GMT -5
With all things considered..
Destroying her phone Deleting top secret emails Having her staff plead the 5th so we will never know the true depths of her treasonous activities
She is such a treasonous untrustworthy cunt that she lost to a reality star.
How can an actual man with a set balls between his legs vote for that bitch.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2016 20:32:41 GMT -5
I will read them, and I'll also respond to your other questions later when I have more time. But regardless of what the emails say, the FBI let her go, and I believe that means she didn't have any confidential material in them and didn't break the law in that case. I don't believe she paid the FBI off or anything like that. I am totally willing, IF I find out about things Hilary has done wrong that can be 110% PROVEN, to change certain opinions. But I will NEVER like Trump or ever say I'd have voted for him if I could go back in time. This isn't about her anymore anyway. She's out of the picture. This is about if Trump will be a good president or not, or do things to ruin the country, which I am concerned he might. But the only thing I am hopeful about is that he might end up being more of a puppet, and that more moderate republicans surrounding him might make a lot of decisions for him. Thanks for being respectful with your questions, comments. First off, the FBI has came out and said that she had and transferred confidential material, and top secret material, including keyhole information (the keyhole shit is what set all this off) in e-mails to not only people without security clearance, but through non-secure servers. The FBI said they don't suggest charges because there was "no intent" to cause harm. Now in the past that has never mattered, and since, but in her case it did, so the question becomes why? Second off, Trump has already revised his plan on healthcare to be more in line with what already here with the ACA, and his statements in the past pre-campaign, which are quite liberal. Third off, you don't need to like a person for them to be good at the job. This is also a HUGE reasons for the female turnout for Trump even after his behavior and statements, they were able to see someone can wear two hats. And as Michael Moore pointed out, Trump supporters probably aren't racist, at least not most of them since the voter turnouts showed that a huge chunk of the people who voted "for a black guy named Hussein twice". Fourth, Trump is actually probably screwed by the Republican controlled Senate and House. He would have been on much better footing with them split as he's far from either party, which would have made bipartisanship easier as it will be needed to get his ideas across. Finally, what happens if Trump really did troll both parties and comes out as the "liberal leaning moderate" that history has made him to be which is in line with an overwhelming majority of America? Will you still hate and not vote for him in 4 years? Or you willing to keep open mind enough to see what is gonna happen? I don't feel like responding to all of this, but the bottom line is that if Hilary had done something worthy of prison the FBI would have imprisoned her. It's actually surprising the FBI even went after her at all a few days before the election because that kind of thing is usually perceived as something which could sway the election, and there's a good chance it did to some extent, but that doesn't necessarily mean that's why she lost, and IMO she'd probably have lost anyway. But the whole deal with her emails is over. You can call it "wrong", which it was and she admitted it was a mistake, but the FBI isn't letting her off the hook. IF the law is that "no intent" means it's not worthy of imprisonment, then that's the law, and then she didn't really break it. And of course you don't have to like someone for them to be a good president, and I REALLY hope Trump ends up being a good one, but I don't think he will. And yes, my mind is open enough that if SOMEHOW by some miracle he turns out to support things I support I will change my opinion of him, but I think there's about as much chance of that happening as a unicorn running through my living room. He'd have to not just do SOME good things (and my mind is already open enough to believe he will in fact do at least a FEW good things), but actually support stances I support publicly and do things to prove it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2016 20:34:11 GMT -5
With all things considered.. Destroying her phone Deleting top secret emails Having her staff plead the 5th so we will never know the true depths of her treasonous activities She is such a treasonous untrustworthy cunt that she lost to a reality star. How can an actual man with a set balls between his legs vote for that bitch. I wonder how a person with a brain can vote for Trump. Now I'm not insulting you personally, so don't take it that way as I don't want to get into a flame war, but you said it first. I think he's done far worse things than she has, but I really think it's time for us to stop discussing Hilary cause she's no longer in the picture. It's all about Trump now (and whoever else works with him).
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Post by Angelo on Nov 12, 2016 20:59:33 GMT -5
I don't feel like responding to all of this, but the bottom line is that if Hilary had done something worthy of prison the FBI would have imprisoned her. It's actually surprising the FBI even went after her at all a few days before the election because that kind of thing is usually perceived as something which could sway the election, and there's a good chance it did to some extent, but that doesn't necessarily mean that's why she lost, and IMO she'd probably have lost anyway. But the whole deal with her emails is over. You can call it "wrong", which it was and she admitted it was a mistake, but the FBI isn't letting her off the hook. IF the law is that "no intent" means it's not worthy of imprisonment, then that's the law, and then she didn't really break it. And of course you don't have to like someone for them to be a good president, and I REALLY hope Trump ends up being a good one, but I don't think he will. And yes, my mind is open enough that if SOMEHOW by some miracle he turns out to support things I support I will change my opinion of him, but I think there's about as much chance of that happening as a unicorn running through my living room. He'd have to not just do SOME good things (and my mind is already open enough to believe he will in fact do at least a FEW good things), but actually support stances I support publicly and do things to prove it. Forget the language of the writer, look at the quotes from the FBI (which you can find in many articles around the same time they concluded the investigation www.thepoliticalinsider.com/hillary-clinton-email-law-broke/They admitted she broke the law, but didn't want to charge her for lack of intent on her behalf. And there is no "no intent" in the law, in fact that is why there are people in prison for doing what she did, but by mistake with no intent. However it was up to Comey to make the official recommendation of charges and decided to make up lack of intent. Also, that pre-election "going after her" that was the media making it look that way. Ask anyone you know in the FBI, Homeland, worked for Hillary, hell OC can tell you, it was never going after her, it was investigating new shit on Huma, not Hillary. Finally the deal with her e-mails are not over for a few simple reasons. 1. If Trump decides to, or even Congress, they can still charge (though now they can add perjury charges but we see how those stick to Clintons) since the DoJ can still file charges. 2. If, as the FBI confirmed likely happened, foreign got their hands on information that (as the FBI confirmed happened) changed hands through unsecure means to non-cleared personnel, it could have resulted in obstructed military operations who's results are still being felt/dealt with. 3. If a full blown DoJ investigation happens (and given what the FBI has reported, should happen IMO), Hillary has the least to worry about. It is entirely possible given the timeline of events, along with various statements, actions, that regardless of Hillary's involvement/knowledge, there were quite a few illegal things that happened DURING the FBI investigation involving people not Hillary. Though going after them will probably splash back on her.
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Post by adamg01 on Nov 12, 2016 21:17:27 GMT -5
With all things considered.. Destroying her phone Deleting top secret emails Having her staff plead the 5th so we will never know the true depths of her treasonous activities She is such a treasonous untrustworthy cunt that she lost to a reality star. How can an actual man with a set balls between his legs vote for that bitch. I wonder how a person with a brain can vote for Trump. Now I'm not insulting you personally, so don't take it that way as I don't want to get into a flame war, but you said it first. I think he's done far worse things than she has, but I really think it's time for us to stop discussing Hilary cause she's no longer in the picture. It's all about Trump now (and whoever else works with him). He's done far worse? So the accusations made against him compare to the factual email debacle? 100 years ago she would have been hanged so gtfo here dude.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2016 21:38:50 GMT -5
Glad to have a Rov sighting. What's up man? I'd love to hear your thoughts on the NBA this season.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2016 23:04:38 GMT -5
I don't feel like responding to all of this, but the bottom line is that if Hilary had done something worthy of prison the FBI would have imprisoned her. It's actually surprising the FBI even went after her at all a few days before the election because that kind of thing is usually perceived as something which could sway the election, and there's a good chance it did to some extent, but that doesn't necessarily mean that's why she lost, and IMO she'd probably have lost anyway. But the whole deal with her emails is over. You can call it "wrong", which it was and she admitted it was a mistake, but the FBI isn't letting her off the hook. IF the law is that "no intent" means it's not worthy of imprisonment, then that's the law, and then she didn't really break it. And of course you don't have to like someone for them to be a good president, and I REALLY hope Trump ends up being a good one, but I don't think he will. And yes, my mind is open enough that if SOMEHOW by some miracle he turns out to support things I support I will change my opinion of him, but I think there's about as much chance of that happening as a unicorn running through my living room. He'd have to not just do SOME good things (and my mind is already open enough to believe he will in fact do at least a FEW good things), but actually support stances I support publicly and do things to prove it. Forget the language of the writer, look at the quotes from the FBI (which you can find in many articles around the same time they concluded the investigation www.thepoliticalinsider.com/hillary-clinton-email-law-broke/They admitted she broke the law, but didn't want to charge her for lack of intent on her behalf. And there is no "no intent" in the law, in fact that is why there are people in prison for doing what she did, but by mistake with no intent. However it was up to Comey to make the official recommendation of charges and decided to make up lack of intent. Also, that pre-election "going after her" that was the media making it look that way. Ask anyone you know in the FBI, Homeland, worked for Hillary, hell OC can tell you, it was never going after her, it was investigating new shit on Huma, not Hillary. Finally the deal with her e-mails are not over for a few simple reasons. 1. If Trump decides to, or even Congress, they can still charge (though now they can add perjury charges but we see how those stick to Clintons) since the DoJ can still file charges. 2. If, as the FBI confirmed likely happened, foreign got their hands on information that (as the FBI confirmed happened) changed hands through unsecure means to non-cleared personnel, it could have resulted in obstructed military operations who's results are still being felt/dealt with. 3. If a full blown DoJ investigation happens (and given what the FBI has reported, should happen IMO), Hillary has the least to worry about. It is entirely possible given the timeline of events, along with various statements, actions, that regardless of Hillary's involvement/knowledge, there were quite a few illegal things that happened DURING the FBI investigation involving people not Hillary. Though going after them will probably splash back on her. Dude, you can say whatever you want, the FBI arrests everyone and anyone who commits a serious offense unless there is some reason why it in fact was not a serious offense. I will not believe that there's any reason they let her go other than that they deemed her offense not worthy of prison. You might as well just stop talking about it, because you won't convince me and I don't want to waste your time as you take a couple minutes to write things out that will have no effect on me. To be honest, I no longer have any interest in posting in this thread, and will probably not be anymore unless someone address directly and I feel compelled to respond, or someone happens to post something that really interests me. I'm much more interested in watching the UFC right now.
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Post by Angelo on Nov 12, 2016 23:12:32 GMT -5
Forget the language of the writer, look at the quotes from the FBI (which you can find in many articles around the same time they concluded the investigation www.thepoliticalinsider.com/hillary-clinton-email-law-broke/They admitted she broke the law, but didn't want to charge her for lack of intent on her behalf. And there is no "no intent" in the law, in fact that is why there are people in prison for doing what she did, but by mistake with no intent. However it was up to Comey to make the official recommendation of charges and decided to make up lack of intent. Also, that pre-election "going after her" that was the media making it look that way. Ask anyone you know in the FBI, Homeland, worked for Hillary, hell OC can tell you, it was never going after her, it was investigating new shit on Huma, not Hillary. Finally the deal with her e-mails are not over for a few simple reasons. 1. If Trump decides to, or even Congress, they can still charge (though now they can add perjury charges but we see how those stick to Clintons) since the DoJ can still file charges. 2. If, as the FBI confirmed likely happened, foreign got their hands on information that (as the FBI confirmed happened) changed hands through unsecure means to non-cleared personnel, it could have resulted in obstructed military operations who's results are still being felt/dealt with. 3. If a full blown DoJ investigation happens (and given what the FBI has reported, should happen IMO), Hillary has the least to worry about. It is entirely possible given the timeline of events, along with various statements, actions, that regardless of Hillary's involvement/knowledge, there were quite a few illegal things that happened DURING the FBI investigation involving people not Hillary. Though going after them will probably splash back on her. Dude, you can say whatever you want, the FBI arrests everyone and anyone who commits a serious offense unless there is some reason why it in fact was not a serious offense. I will not believe that there's any reason they let her go other than that they deemed her offense not worthy of prison. You might as well just stop talking about it, because you won't convince me and I don't want to waste your time as you take a couple minutes to write things out that will have no effect on me. To be honest, I no longer have any interest in posting in this thread, and will probably not be anymore unless someone address directly and I feel compelled to respond, or someone happens to post something that really interests me. I'm much more interested in watching the UFC right now. The FBI does not have the authority to arrest Hillary. That is the DoJ's jurisdiction. FBI does the investigation and makes a recommendation. Their conclusion was she broke the law, it was a serious offense, but they don't believe the law should be the way it is so they do not suggest charges being filed.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2016 23:17:15 GMT -5
Dude, you can say whatever you want, the FBI arrests everyone and anyone who commits a serious offense unless there is some reason why it in fact was not a serious offense. I will not believe that there's any reason they let her go other than that they deemed her offense not worthy of prison. You might as well just stop talking about it, because you won't convince me and I don't want to waste your time as you take a couple minutes to write things out that will have no effect on me. To be honest, I no longer have any interest in posting in this thread, and will probably not be anymore unless someone address directly and I feel compelled to respond, or someone happens to post something that really interests me. I'm much more interested in watching the UFC right now. The FBI does not have the authority to arrest Hillary. That is the DoJ's jurisdiction. FBI does the investigation and makes a recommendation. Their conclusion was she broke the law, it was a serious offense, but they don't believe the law should be the way it is so they do not suggest charges being filed. Dude, has anyone ever told you you can be EXTREMELY annoying?? I know people on here have in fact, but I've never really gotten annoyed by you till now. I think the FBI DOES have the authority to arrest her. Now don't answer again as to why you think they don't etc etc. I directly asked you not to respond to me anymore cause I don't feel like talking about this, and you're just like "whatever, I'm still going to keep responding when someone doesn't want to talk" LOL. Now please, stop talking about this, or I will basically just not respond if you post again. Thank you.
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Post by daywork on Nov 12, 2016 23:17:56 GMT -5
Yes, Right now you should be watching the UFC event.
I would ask, If she didn't do anything wrong. Why did they feel the need to destroy computers and phones?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2016 23:19:32 GMT -5
Yes, Right now you should be watching the UFC event. I would ask, If she didn't do anything wrong. Why did they feel the need to destroy computers and phones? Maybe she did something wrong, in fact, I know she did and she admitted she shouldn't have done what she did. But IMO they'd have arrested her if they believed her crime was worthy of her being arrested. Now don't be like Jackel and just keep posting to me over and over again LOL. I don't think you will. But I'm still expecting about 5 more responses from Jackel within the next 10 minutes lol. I'm pretty enthusiastic about NOT posting in this thread at all anymore LOL.
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Post by Angelo on Nov 12, 2016 23:26:43 GMT -5
They do not have the authority, the jurisdiction is with the DoJ, hence why all eyes were on Loretta Lynch and not Comey. Were you living under a rock?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2016 23:28:58 GMT -5
They do not have the authority, the jurisdiction is with the DoJ, hence why all eyes were on Loretta Lynch and not Comey. Were you living under a rock? Ok, I will say I believe you if that is what you would like to hear. So on the whole "not continuing to talk to someone when they aren't trying to have a conversation with you" thing, has this been a problem for you for a long time now? LOL And the proper response to that is NOT to respond...because that's kind of the point I'm making you know, since we aren't really having a conversation anymore lol...
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Post by slaytan on Nov 12, 2016 23:32:00 GMT -5
toehold is like "Damn it I dropped the mic!!! That means I win and you shut up!"
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Post by Angelo on Nov 12, 2016 23:38:00 GMT -5
They do not have the authority, the jurisdiction is with the DoJ, hence why all eyes were on Loretta Lynch and not Comey. Were you living under a rock? Ok, I will say I believe you if that is what you would like to hear. So on the whole "not continuing to talk to someone when they aren't trying to have a conversation with you" thing, has this been a problem for you for a long time now? LOL And the proper response to that is NOT to respond...because that's kind of the point I'm making you know, since we aren't really having a conversation anymore lol... I don't give two shits if you believe me or not, it is people like you that don't understand basic functions of our government that lead to uniformed voters. This is how people like Obama, and Trump get elected. Just like you not realizing they never re-opened into Hillary, but instead into Huma. The FBI is allowed to arrest certain people for certain crimes, the DoJ (using the Marshal Service) arrests certain people for certain crimes. In this case the FBI was allowed to investigate and make a recommendation, the DoJ was the agency that had to file charges though, not the FBI. You need to learn this because it could become a very important point if Trump appointees decide to go buckwild and live up to the terror that some of us think could result from a Trump election. You need to understand how the checks and balances work so you understand what is gonna happen over the next 4 years if things really do go off the rails. Once you realize this, and study this, you may also realize how scary it is, especially for normal citizens, that the FBI literally invented the idea of intent for major crimes.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2016 0:14:07 GMT -5
Ok, I will say I believe you if that is what you would like to hear. So on the whole "not continuing to talk to someone when they aren't trying to have a conversation with you" thing, has this been a problem for you for a long time now? LOL And the proper response to that is NOT to respond...because that's kind of the point I'm making you know, since we aren't really having a conversation anymore lol... I don't give two shits if you believe me or not, it is people like you that don't understand basic functions of our government that lead to uniformed voters. This is how people like Obama, and Trump get elected. Just like you not realizing they never re-opened into Hillary, but instead into Huma. The FBI is allowed to arrest certain people for certain crimes, the DoJ (using the Marshal Service) arrests certain people for certain crimes. In this case the FBI was allowed to investigate and make a recommendation, the DoJ was the agency that had to file charges though, not the FBI. You need to learn this because it could become a very important point if Trump appointees decide to go buckwild and live up to the terror that some of us think could result from a Trump election. You need to understand how the checks and balances work so you understand what is gonna happen over the next 4 years if things really do go off the rails. Once you realize this, and study this, you may also realize how scary it is, especially for normal citizens, that the FBI literally invented the idea of intent for major crimes. Ok dude, I will read about it and find out if you are right or not, but even if the DoJ is the only one with the authority to send her to prison, I tend to think that if there's really good reason to believe she broke a serious law, that they would also look into it. If they don't I'd wonder why they don't, and if they do and find out she's innocent, then she's innocent. So I will look into it and find out the answer. But otherwise, I simply cannot understand why you keep posting to someone who doesn't want to talk to you. I've made it abundantly clear I am not interested in a discussion about this, but you seem to lack self control. So all I can say is I'll read up on the issue and form my own opinion. And now I'd like to be done with this.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2016 0:24:26 GMT -5
As far as the hidden post, because Garth and Cybergod are the only 2 posters I have on ignore, I have to assume that Garth is addressing me.
Dude, you know I'm not going to read what you write so you are wasting your time, and I just plain don't understand why you are such a fucking HATEFUL human being.
I mean if there was a hatred scale, in terms of the intensity with which a person hates others, and probably also the number of people a person hates over even the smallest of disagreements, and people like Hitler were a 10, you'd DEFINITELY be no lower than 8.5, probably 9.
I'd be like a 3 or 4, maybe a 2.
You probably think it's a GOOD thing to hate everyone and everything.
And once you even said that IN PERSON you don't like to get into arguments, but I can't possibly believe that's true with how hateful you are on here.
You have VERY few redeeming qualities from what I have seen.
I can't imagine how you haven't been in like 2 billion fights in your life (whether they were actually physical fights or verbal, you must get into conflict every where you go).
And this is why you defend Trump: because he's hateful and so are you.
It makes perfect sense that you are from Florida...
Yet the simple fact that someone disagrees with you, but NEVER actually insulted you (UNTIL you insulted me first) leads you to go on a VICIOUS personal attack against that person, it's really fucking unbelievable and disgusting.
Whatever, people like you unfortunately exist.
But the bottom line with you people is that you ALWAYS hate yourselves and are miserable, otherwise you wouldn't be attacking people for just having different views from you.
This is why I suggested shrooms to pacify you.
I think otherwise you will probably have an anger induced heart attack, stroke or aneurysm someday and drop dead.
But even I wouldn't wish it on you.
Try to fucking stop hating everyone and everything.
It's not healthy.
And it CERTAINLY makes no sense posting to someone who has you on ignore.
Then again, why am I responding to you when I'm not reading what you wrote?
Good question, so I'll take my own advice, and stop.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2016 0:50:07 GMT -5
Toehold... you are coming across as both very uninformed and immature here. Not saying you are a bad person, but sometimes you simply have to cut your losses and move on.
Everyone knows that Obama told the DOJ not to indite her (which in turn made the FBI not recommend charges) so he could make sure his executive actions would not get repealed. It is also known that the Clinton foundation sold time and influence during her time as SOS (Wikileaks), which is against the law.
I know you hate Trump, but what strikes me is how little you seem to know about him.
1) He isn't against immigration (he is against illegal immigration) 2) He doesn't hate women (his companies actually pay women more compared to men than the Clinton Foundation does) 3) He doesn't hate black people (he has a higher rate of minority employees than the Clinton foundation) 4) He isn't a war monger (he was against the war in Iraq, while Hillary voted for it and continued voting to fund it for years) 5) He isn't for trickle down economics (he is going to drop tax rates for everyone, stop the hyper inflation of healthcare premiums and lower unemployment by promoting business friendly practices)
I personally gave all of my employees a $2.00 per hour raise on Wednesday last week 100% because Trump won. I told them that just based on the repeal of Obamacare I am going to save $4,000.00 a year per employee, so they get that passed directly on to their paychecks.
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Post by Premier on Nov 13, 2016 1:00:14 GMT -5
A 2 dollar raise comes out to just under 4K a year. Pretty cool of you.
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Post by Angelo on Nov 13, 2016 1:02:55 GMT -5
4k seems a bit low. Sporty's sister works for a non-profit, 19 employees I think and pays about 500k/yr because of the ACA and they don't even get as good coverage as Sporty gets, or anywhere near what they used to before the ACA.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2016 1:05:05 GMT -5
Ok, I am going to copy and paste this post and save it in a document I've actually made of political posts made from all the posters who disagree with me on this forum (other than Garth who I ignore) and look into these issues later.
I know that might seem odd that I do that, but it's because I don't completely ignore those who disagree with me and do have SOME desire to learn more about this issues so I can figure out more about what I am correct or incorrect about.
So I'll look into all this later.
REGARDLESS, I have not a single doubt in my mind that Trump is a VERY hateful person, and yes, I do believe he's racist and misogynistic and I think that's pretty easy to tell from how he talks.
I mean you can have all these stances and whatever, but the way a person talks conveys a lot in a different way about how a person REALLY feels.
I'm not "cutting my losses" though, because I will never like Trump, and I ALMOST know that for a fact.
I say "almost" because I am open minded enough to leave the VAGUE VERY FAR OUT possibility out there that he could end up doing some good things and changing my opinion.
But overall, most stances I have are liberal in general (other than my stance on guns as I don't believe banning them would be helpful) and so especially with someone who seems as vulgar to me as Trump, I think it's pretty slim that I could ever like him.
I don't care who he employs, I hear how he talks about women and minorities and I know what I hear.
My whole family who I respect also feels the same way about him, and they know MUCH more about politics than me.
I GUARANTEE you my uncle, mother, father and 1st cousin know JUST as much if not MORE about politics than you do, they are ALWAYS reading newspapers and are watching News for like AT LEAST 2 hours everyday, and are all highly educated, and they disagree with you and most of the posters on here with almost every issue regarding Trump.
So they influence me, and I can't deny I need to read up more myself and see where I may or may not disagree with them, but you see, it its 110% possible for someone to even know MORE about politics and more about Donald Trump than you, and disagree with you on every point you are making here.
So you can't simply claim you or others who believe what you do are just plain "right" about anything and everything you say about Trump.
Also, I heard that Trump had at one point said he WAS for the war in Iraq and took it back, but I'm not sure about that.
I DEFINITELY think he does NOT really like latinos, blacks and feels women are objects, and I believe that from everything I've heard come out of his mouth and how he holds himself.
I also legitimately believe he is just a hateful person, and to deny that he's an egomanical narcissist is IMO just mind boggling.
Anyways, I'll save this post, look into this shit eventually, and find out IF you happen to be right about some of this.
But there's about a 0.000001% chance I'll ever like Trump, and I don't believe that he or anyone else on his end of the political spectrum supports the stances I agree with (other than the gun issue, and vetting those who are coming into this country a little more strongly, with which I definitely do agree...TO AN EXTENT).
Now, PLEASE respect my desire to no longer be involved in this thread.
No one else seems to, which IMO is just disrespectful.
I lost interest in this conversation a long time ago.
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