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Post by Tokyudo on Oct 1, 2016 21:19:26 GMT -5
Ah gotcha, makes sense. I'll have to remember the shrugging head part. I think it's a habit of most people if they commit to two hands on one that they totally forget about preventing the other hand from coming around the head. Personally, I don't use the turtle-to-granby from bottom side, I just do more of the traditional escapes. I specifically like Marcelo's good ol fashioned stiff arm-shrimp out technique. Oh definitely. The stiff arm is my 1st go to. If the stiff arm worked but i don't have the distance to sit-up, it's perfect for a kimura(not advisable if you can't spin for an armbar if they try to counter with an ambar, if they don't counter, you can go for the back of roll them over for the reversal. Seriously, so many options with the double wrist lock). If the stiff arm fail, i do silly stuff like nogi baseball choke(bread cutter) from the bottom. Damn you. I just quit BJJ. [GayBrokeBackMountainReference] "BJJ I can't quit you!" [/GayBrokeBackMountainReference] I seen a pretty cool video for some bottom side escape variations. Let's say I'm on bottom side and opponent is on my right side. One in particular I like is when you can get an arm frame in front of your opponent's throat and you're able frame your hands on top of each other against the shoulder (from under the armpit). With my left arm across their throat, hands on top of each other framing against the shoulder, and other arm out from the opponent's armpit, I roll my right arm right over their shoulder (I'm also rolling toward my left side a little). The roll over motion creates a lot of space for me and also pushes them down a bit and away, allowing me to shrimp out and sit up.
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Post by Tokyudo on Oct 12, 2016 12:11:05 GMT -5
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Post by boboplata on Oct 12, 2016 21:38:32 GMT -5
Great find, Tok. Not for me though. My left LCL was screaming when I was watching that.
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Post by boboplata on Oct 19, 2016 6:49:05 GMT -5
I keep doing x-pass in my head. Drill that shit Tok. That's a solid guard pass that works even on my black belt instructor. OF course he would regain guard & smash me. Still, it works.
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Post by Tokyudo on Oct 21, 2016 23:02:00 GMT -5
You go a vid on the exact version of x-pass you do? I want to make sure it's the same one I'm thinking about.
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Post by boboplata on Oct 23, 2016 0:03:22 GMT -5
You go a vid on the exact version of x-pass you do? I want to make sure it's the same one I'm thinking about. This was the 1st and only vid I watched to learn it. Then both acaddemies I went to, surprisingly drills this alot. It works really well when you're "Base" is being caught in DLR. I let myself in a dlr/rdlrv just so I could break their grips & hook & seamlessly go to xpass. I just found this vid just now. I mirror everything that Scully does here except for some grip/s preferences but the concept is basically the same. I have a money DLR break that I learned from gerbil jiujitsu www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkYi2u1w3OF0N_3up039wI-3AmqFmVPidSadly, I can't find the specific escape. It was DLR break that makes go for like takedown motion to the side that I supplement with the xpass.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2016 11:35:08 GMT -5
Lets say I'm on top of you in side control, I'm going to be on your right side. You would turn to your left to turtle. As you begin the transition to turtle (this doesn't work if you get to full turtle), I take my left leg and slide my foot under the gap you just created as you turned. Simultaneously from there, I'll grip with an under/over seat belt grip (my left hand over your left shoulder but under your head and my right hand under your right armpit to clasp hands together). Once I have my leg/foot in position and my grip set, I pull you on top of me at an angle and get my left hook in, it doesn't matter if my right hook isn't set in; we're in twister position basically. If you're defending well and I can't get my right hook in, I will basically stretch your entire body by extending my left hook straight down and pull up and towards my chest with my grip. This will make it super easy for me to lock in my right hook at this point because of how uncomfortably contorted your body will be. So basically a twister back take position. Hope you can follow all of that. I can visualize that. & I have seen people try do that to me. This is what I do to counter that or to basically regain guard: I can't find the original marcelo garcia video, but this is still in the mginaction youtube account, so I guess it's 100% MG's. "I'll grip with an under/over seat belt grip (my left hand over your left shoulder but under your head and my right hand under your right armpit to clasp hands together" In my old academy we drill this with our left arm guarding our necks as we turtle & the right hand grabbing your right hand. Then we roll. Does this work as well when rolling with a gi? Seems like if I'm on top and my right hand isn't grabbed fast enough, I can force out and hold the hip. No?
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Post by boboplata on Oct 23, 2016 18:28:14 GMT -5
I can visualize that. & I have seen people try do that to me. This is what I do to counter that or to basically regain guard: I can't find the original marcelo garcia video, but this is still in the mginaction youtube account, so I guess it's 100% MG's. "I'll grip with an under/over seat belt grip (my left hand over your left shoulder but under your head and my right hand under your right armpit to clasp hands together" In my old academy we drill this with our left arm guarding our necks as we turtle & the right hand grabbing your right hand. Then we roll. Does this work as well when rolling with a gi? Seems like if I'm on top and my right hand isn't grabbed fast enough, I can force out and hold the hip. No? Gi or nogi, if you dont have the arm, you dont even attempt it.
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Post by Tokyudo on Oct 24, 2016 7:47:29 GMT -5
You go a vid on the exact version of x-pass you do? I want to make sure it's the same one I'm thinking about. This was the 1st and only vid I watched to learn it. Then both acaddemies I went to, surprisingly drills this alot. It works really well when you're "Base" is being caught in DLR. I let myself in a dlr/rdlrv just so I could break their grips & hook & seamlessly go to xpass. I just found this vid just now. I mirror everything that Scully does here except for some grip/s preferences but the concept is basically the same. I have a money DLR break that I learned from gerbil jiujitsu www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkYi2u1w3OF0N_3up039wI-3AmqFmVPidSadly, I can't find the specific escape. It was DLR break that makes go for like takedown motion to the side that I supplement with the xpass. Yes that's the same one I do, it is a great pass. I also call it a "baby Toreando". I have a variation of it when I get caught in top half guard (I replace the leg kick back with a knee slice), it turns into a really powerful pressure pass. Good stuff.
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Post by boboplata on Nov 1, 2016 4:35:25 GMT -5
LMAO!!
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Post by Tokyudo on Nov 13, 2016 20:08:07 GMT -5
Been working on rolling armbars of late (from bottom guard and turtle/back). Trying to find ways to tweak the leg that goes over the back of my opponent's head so that it's tighter. Playing around with pointing toes up a bit but then it almost feels like it's making the contact loose.
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Post by boboplata on Nov 13, 2016 20:37:05 GMT -5
I love rolling armbars, flipping them over is fun. A good sequence that works for me is break the posture, get a tight overhook, shrimp out, bring your outside leg over, grab a thigh, flip them over, profit. Or you could finish with a russian armbar if you don't flip them.
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Post by Tokyudo on Nov 13, 2016 20:44:01 GMT -5
I've found that when the opponent doesn't flip, grabbing their outside foot (instead of the near) is a super strong move that almost always gets the roll even if they resist. Ronda Rousey favors the outside foot I've noticed.
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Post by boboplata on Nov 13, 2016 21:23:16 GMT -5
I've found that when the opponent doesn't flip, grabbing their outside foot (instead of the near) is a super strong move that almost always gets the roll even if they resist. Ronda Rousey favors the outside foot I've noticed. This is what other people do in the gym as well. I think this is the correct form. I do what I want.
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Post by Tokyudo on Dec 10, 2016 16:33:26 GMT -5
So it's been a while since I posted. Been working on a new darce system bottom side. For the longest time, I've always hated being in bottom side (and this is usually the same sentiment by many). However, this new offensive darce system I've been playing with is fantastic, it works even if the top guy has a super should of justice-like control.
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Post by Tokyudo on Jan 21, 2017 22:05:39 GMT -5
Been focusing on a kimura trap system, man it's complimented my game nicely.
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Post by agrappleaday on Jan 21, 2017 23:29:01 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2017 22:48:13 GMT -5
I can visualize that. & I have seen people try do that to me. This is what I do to counter that or to basically regain guard: I can't find the original marcelo garcia video, but this is still in the mginaction youtube account, so I guess it's 100% MG's. "I'll grip with an under/over seat belt grip (my left hand over your left shoulder but under your head and my right hand under your right armpit to clasp hands together" In my old academy we drill this with our left arm guarding our necks as we turtle & the right hand grabbing your right hand. Then we roll. Does this work as well when rolling with a gi? Seems like if I'm on top and my right hand isn't grabbed fast enough, I can force out and hold the hip. No? We do this all the time at my school though we don't usually grab the arm, not sure I remember what we do instead but it works really well, but we often do it when stacked in guard and not only side mount. It's basically just a gramby roll and my instructor does this every time that I have him really stacked up and am close to a pass.
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Post by boboplata on Mar 12, 2017 20:28:19 GMT -5
I probably rolled like 6-7x in 2016 due to my job. I rolled one time last December in my home town & I was so out of shape, the blue belt tapped me 5x in 5 mins. I rolled again last saturday here in Malaysia & I did so much better. The level of skills is head & shoulders better at home. & this wasn't even in Manila, just some small city in the southern islands.
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Post by boboplata on May 16, 2017 20:02:38 GMT -5
Still trying to be grappling "fit" but I have no delusions, my current lifestyle sucks. I need a change of pace & environment.
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Post by boboplata on Jul 25, 2017 22:28:25 GMT -5
Welp, that confirms it. Roger is the goat. Older & outweighed by a much more athletic grappler. Went for only 1 sub & got it. Choked Buchecha in 7 mins.
Skip to 6:30
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Post by vegeta420z on Sept 10, 2017 20:40:31 GMT -5
I had a phone booth "fight" with one of my best friends a few weeks ago. I got his back while we were still on our feet. Dropped the RNC but didn't want to knock him out. So he stepped back and flipped me over his head, because I only put one (my right) hook in. Basically, he fell for the bait. When I came over his (right) shoulder, I released my grip with my left hand and transitioned my right hand to grab his collar as I was coming over. My right foot swiveled so that the bottom of my foot was on his hip. Keeping the collar grip kept his head down, and when my back hit the ground, my right leg was firmly planted in his groin. I pulled his collar down towards me and lifted with my right leg, which took him right up off his feet and had him land (awkwardly) at my side. Still had the collar grip and transitioned right into side control. Gave him a kiss on his forehead and then got up and told him that he obviously needs to go lift more weights. He said that using Joe Jitsu is cheap. I said being 250 and throwing around a 185er is pretty cheap too. Good times at the 4 year old's birthday party. You notice how many people replied to this complete and total horse shit? Yep thats right princess Big fat fucking zero. And seeing as how everything you do on here is for attention and validation i imagine that bugs the shit out of you don't it? Yeah right more like a sleeping bag fight but whatever you have to tell yourself fuck boy i'll bet you bit quit a bit of pillow didn't you? Oh ill bet you did! how sweet that he let you be on top for a while seeing as how you are usually ion the bottom being pile driven shut the fuck up anyone that has even a rudimentary understanding of grappling knows how to choke someone out with out hurting them, this just furthers the idea that this whole story is horse shit and that you have no real training. so this sounds like your saying he hit ya with an Ippon seoinage (what we called it in Judo or Shoulder throw) and then you collar gripped him, and spun in to get a single butterfly hook to sweep him what kind of fucking collar did he have that you could get that god of a fucking grip with out his shirt tearing was he wearing a fucking winter coat in September? Or is this bullshit story also not a tony original maybe you copied it from blackbelt magazine to mock Bobbo huh? How romantic after your fat redneck friend pile drives you for an hour your still a bitch enough to kiss him, you probably should have went and taken a rape shower after a buggering like that pansy boy. assuming any of this horse shit other then the gay parts are true then Big fucking deal you were able to get side control in a grappling match with some fat redneck who has no training? You know who else can do this um practically every fucking white belt ever. Wait what what what? was Cyber god there?
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Post by boboplata on Oct 2, 2018 5:14:31 GMT -5
Watching my old video.
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Post by vegeta420z on Dec 14, 2018 4:54:14 GMT -5
Watching my old video. What you trying to do bra take attention away from that tiny pee pee China mans thread? You know he needs the attention to make up for the fact he hava such veddy smrall penises cause Americans hava such veddy rarge penises. Oh and in case you cunt tell I'm talking bout old tiny wanger floyd
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Post by vegeta420z on Dec 14, 2018 4:56:14 GMT -5
Watching my old video. Was that you that one and what was thT finish bulldog choke, north south?
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Post by boboplata on Dec 15, 2018 0:02:13 GMT -5
Watching my old video. Was that you that one and what was thT finish bulldog choke, north south? One-armed clock choke. Not as "telegraphed" as a traditional clock choke where you need 2 hands gripping the lapel then dropping your head before you start "walking'. Got the gold for that match.
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