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Post by sooner2 on Dec 28, 2016 14:11:23 GMT -5
I have been tied up with family stuff and am not watching nearly as many owl games as I typically do. Watched much of the baykor boise game and the army game. Listened to every down of the miss state Miami Ohio game while driving.
Listened to much of the old dominion game as well while driving . Cool to see highlights of the Gatorade bath and joyful coach reaction to him winning his schools first ever bowl game after starting a D1 program just a few years ago.
Tonight should be a good game. West v / Miami.
There are some very good non playoff matchups this year. Mich fsu and LSU Louisville are particularly intriguing for me. Sugar bowl also is interesting to me. (Am concerned about bad matchups against what auburn brings).
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Post by Baph on Dec 28, 2016 15:43:07 GMT -5
Same here. Just got back home and haven't seen a single game yet, but it's just now getting interesting. Excited for the rest of this week/weekend.
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Post by ocmmafan on Dec 28, 2016 21:26:27 GMT -5
Baylor looked awesome - much more athletic than Boise State and the kind of team that just had better athletes everywhere. I was pretty surprised they could dominate like that.
Miami is primed right now and playing great. They beat up West Virginia and were simply better everywhere. That Miami team is young, fast, athletic and going to be very good next year. Like top 5-10 good.
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Post by Baph on Dec 28, 2016 23:15:52 GMT -5
Baylor looked awesome - much more athletic than Boise State and the kind of team that just had better athletes everywhere. I was pretty surprised they could dominate like that. Miami is primed right now and playing great. They beat up West Virginia and were simply better everywhere. That Miami team is young, fast, athletic and going to be very good next year. Like top 5-10 good. Baylor is extremely good. Their problems this season were off the field. QB injury. Massive program drama. Recruits bailing. NCAA sanctions. They were just wildly unfocused and it really, really showed late in the season. They started the season 6-0. Beat Rice, beat OKState, beat Iowa St in Aimes, then the wheels came off in a major way and they finished the season 0-6. Like polar opposite manic depressive meltdown in real time on a national stage. From 6-0 to 0-6. What a mess. But talent? Yeah, they're loaded. Boise has no business on the field with Baylor if they're healthy and focused. This is part of the problem with the Big 12. They appear to be falling off, but they're just underpreforming. Texas, TCU, Baylor, KState . . . these are stacked, formidable teams. They just can't get it together. KState is beating the breaks off of Texas A&M right now.
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Post by Baph on Dec 29, 2016 10:42:27 GMT -5
WVU controlled the opening quarter and then it was all Miami once they got up to speed. Interesting to see how a 3+ week layoff impacts the rhythm and timing of some teams. WVU looked fine, but seemed to fatigue later in the game (conditioning may have fallen off during the layoff), while Miami looked rusty and slow, but came on strong as the game went on and they got used to gamespeed again.
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Post by sooner2 on Dec 29, 2016 15:52:32 GMT -5
In watching WV pretty regularly for the past 3 plus years, I have noticed a definite trend of them making stupid mistakes at key times in a game and it winds up costing them the game as things snowball. It happened in the OU game this year. They handed OU the first half gift wrapped.
Happened in the OU game last year. Happened again this year vs Miami. Stupid penalties at the worst of times. Holding penalties bringing back huge runs. Personal foul penalties extending the drives of opponents . Now granted ... two of the calls in the Miami game were bad calls by the refs.... but holgerosn lost his cool and lost any focus for team plays for at least 10 minutes after them. If the team looks down and sees him losing his shit... its only natural for them to respond similarly
Hell...ollavsky the center had to pull his head coach back from the refs and try to calm him down. Ummmmm.... what's wrong with this picture??...
K state won surprises me. I figured txam might not be quite as motivated... but I figured their IMMENSE advantage in talent... combined with a home crowd.. would result in a win, regardless of how unmotivated they might appear. Nope... the fighting Snyder and his bunch of 2 and 3 stars took it to the 4 and 5 star darlings of the recruiting services soundly.
Am starting to get really really fired up for the weekdn of games!! I got bama and Ohio state.
Also have Michigan over fsu , auburn over Oklahoma, osu over Colorado, USC over penn state, and lsu over Louisville.
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Post by daywork on Dec 29, 2016 22:36:57 GMT -5
What a come back for Virginia Tech. Man, talk about a game of 2 halfs.
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Post by Baph on Dec 29, 2016 22:51:57 GMT -5
OKST looking phenomenal. Just having their way with #10 Colorado. 17-0 at the half. Defensive line is bullying Colorado's front. Great tackling. Just choking off any momentum Colorado starts to get. The passing game is one point, creative, good rhythm, spreading it around, unpredictable . . . my only thought is where was this shit during Bedlam? Does the rain really bother Rudolph that much? Night and day difference here, and supposedly Colorado has a much better secondary. Right now, that secondary is just getting picked on. Gundy's hair is just . . . out of control. Somebody's gotta say something, right?
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Post by Baph on Dec 29, 2016 23:42:15 GMT -5
End of 3rd Quarter:
OKST - 31 Colo - 0
Complete speed and talent mis-match.
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Post by Baph on Dec 29, 2016 23:55:02 GMT -5
SEC is 1-4 in bowl games right now.
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Post by Baph on Dec 30, 2016 0:27:45 GMT -5
Wrapping up at the Alamo Bowl. 38-8 final. OKST just physically overpowered Colorado on both sides of the ball. Impressive win. Pac 12 not looking good in bowls. If Wash gets routed vs Bama it will be a pretty catastrophic bowl season for the conference. SEC looking abysmal as well. Shockingly, Big 12 looking strong. Baylor, KState, and OKST all play their best football of 2016 and win big. And these weak Big 12 defenses are bullying opponents. What gives?
OKST just played one of the top 5 games of the Mike Gundy era. Phenomenal defense. Execution. Tough on 3rd and 4th downs. Bothered the QB on damn near every snap. Good misdirection on offense. Versatile. Some nice trick plays and new wrinkles. Well called game. Everyone, players, coordinators, it's all just clicking and it's a thing of beauty. OKST will finish 10-3. Beat KState, Texas, Texas Tech, West Virginia, Pitt, TCU, and Colorado in a blowout. They return damn near everything. Have VERY high expectations for this team in 2017. They'll get TCU, OU, KState, and Baylor at home. Rudolph's senior campaign. Big 12 bringing back the title game. Planets are aligning. Fully expect to seriously compete for the conference and a playoff spot in 2017.
Top 5 Performances of Gundy Era:
5. #4 Stanford, 2011
4. #10 Colorado, 2016
3. #8 TCU, 2015
2. #10 OU, 2011
1. #4 Baylor, 2013
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Post by daywork on Dec 30, 2016 20:55:09 GMT -5
Just looked at the Fla St vs Michigan game.. Damn,Fla St putting it on them.
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Post by Baph on Dec 30, 2016 20:57:46 GMT -5
Florida State opening up on Michigan. 17-3 end of 1st quarter. Yeesh. Pretty visible speed difference.
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Post by daywork on Dec 30, 2016 21:06:40 GMT -5
Florida State opening up on Michigan. 17-3 end of 1st quarter. Yeesh. Pretty visible speed difference. Do you think this game would look the same if it was a playoff game?
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Post by Baph on Dec 30, 2016 22:29:17 GMT -5
Florida State opening up on Michigan. 17-3 end of 1st quarter. Yeesh. Pretty visible speed difference. Do you think this game would look the same if it was a playoff game? I do. Michigan's had a stagnant offense all season. When the find something to exploit they go off, but absent that they just kind of sputter. Lost to Iowa 14-13. Beat Indiana 20-10. Beat Wiscy 14-7. Now losing to FSU 20-9 late in the 3rd quarter. When the match-ups they like aren't there, they just kind of stall out. Would certainly expect them to struggle scoring against Bama or Clemson.
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Post by Baph on Dec 30, 2016 23:09:11 GMT -5
FSU with the dumbest pick-6 in the history of organized sports. wow.
They immediately answer with an explosive mega run and restore the lead to 27-15 with about 10 min to go in the game. Michigan has not scored an offensive touchdown. FSU has about a million sacks. This just isn't going to happen. I don't care how many boogers Harbaugh eats.
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Post by Baph on Dec 30, 2016 23:38:19 GMT -5
Michigan getting it figured out in the 4th. Dramatic turn of events. With just minutes to go in the 3rd they've got 9 pts from 3 FGs . . . all of a sudden they rattle off 21 pts and take the lead. WTF? FSU goes full Arkansas here.
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Post by daywork on Dec 30, 2016 23:53:09 GMT -5
Just looked at the score. Holy shit, they almost came back and won
And ofcourse. I had the under .
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Post by daywork on Dec 31, 2016 16:49:25 GMT -5
All Bama so far at the half. No big surprises by that. I full expect Bama to dominate the 2nd half like they usually do.
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Post by Baph on Dec 31, 2016 16:55:10 GMT -5
Bama looks just physically stronger than Wash. Hard to beat a disciplined, motivated team that's deeper and stronger than you. Like . . . really hard.
Pac 12 Bowl season, yo . . . WTF?
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Post by daywork on Dec 31, 2016 22:17:11 GMT -5
I bet on Clemson in this game. But I'd be lying to you if I said I was confident with the bet. I've only got to see clips of the game every now and then. I was not expecting to see a 31-0 score with 6 minutes left.
Championship game is going to be good.
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Post by Baph on Dec 31, 2016 22:24:35 GMT -5
Big 10 Bowl season, yo . . . WTF?
Ohio St has no business in the playoffs. Because Clemson is pulling starters 10 min out, OSU will keep it under 40.
Clearly we got the top 2 teams in the final, and that's great, but it would have happened anyway. But there are serious questions about how good Ohio St really is. Lost to Penn St. Beat Mich St by 1 pt in a game they trailed throughout. Beat Michigan by 3 in OT in a game they trailed throughout. Totally outmatched vs Clemson on both sides of the ball. I'll take USC, FSU, possibly even OU over Ohio St right now, fully aware of the early season loss.
Clemson vs Bama is a very exciting match-up. Both teams made real statements, especially Clemson, and Jan 9th just got considerably more tantalizing.
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Post by llort on Jan 1, 2017 1:16:25 GMT -5
OSU hahahhaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahaha.....overrated.....overrated...overrated.....overrated!
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Post by Baph on Jan 2, 2017 1:49:20 GMT -5
Upcoming predictions:
USC over Penn St tomorrow. Possibly big. One of the hotter teams in all of football right now. Strong finish to a weird season. Expect them to make a statement.
Finding Auburn vs OU hard to predict. Both are good but inconsistent teams. Auburn got held to 7 pts in their Georgia loss. Held to 16 in A&M loss. Held to 13 in Clem loss. Held to 12 in Bama loss. Great strength of schedule, but clearly they can be shut down and beaten.
They have a nice win over LSU and a big win over Arkansas that doesn't appear super impressive right now. Not a great resume, honestly.
OU's wins over OKST, KState look more impressive right now than any Auburn wins. But OU's losses to Houston and Ohio St, while being quality opponents, still don't look good and appeared to show some physical mis-matches.
So, all that to say, Auburn has some depth and overall team speed/size that OU is lacking, but OU has a better resume, record, and some playmakers. We'll see how these squads have used their month off and if the Mixon deal was/is a distraction. I'm leaning slightly toward OU, but think the game will be close and could go either way.
In the final game . . . believe it or not . . . I'm picking Clemson and possibly by two scores. This is a team of destiny. Alabama has looked better all season. A clear #1. But Clemson suddenly looks possessed. Peaking. HIGHLY motivated. And also rising to the moment with smart, aggressive, well-executed football. This QB is a difference maker and the team WANTS it. Watch out, Bama.
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Post by Baph on Jan 2, 2017 22:31:28 GMT -5
Auburn and OU are 14-13 at half. Look evenly matched. LOTS of penalties. Lots. Some clear rust. You can see why OU moved heaven and earth to keep Mixon on the roster. He's head and shoulders above anyone on the field on either team in terms of athleticism and playmaking. He touches maybe 75% of their snaps. He's a guy that single-handedly makes your team 10 spots better in the rankings. Just him. Mayfield seems completely crazy. Like a bull rider, not a paint huffing hobo. Like X games crazy. The dude is pure Manziel. Just living life on the razor's edge of disaster. Guys on your shirt tail. In your own end zone. Scrambling. Scrapping. Jawing the other team. Just a ball of intensity. How he hasn't been sacked four times already including a safety is completely beyond me. Auburn seems pretty even keeled with a decent power run game. Interesting to see how the QB switch plays out.
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Post by Baph on Jan 3, 2017 0:12:42 GMT -5
Auburn QB goes out, then back-up QB goes out within a quarter of each other, and OU just stepped on the gas during the chaos and turned this into a route. Auburn looks pretty pedestrian, one dimensional, mediocre . . . they're going to end up a 5 loss team with their best win being over LSU during coaching drama.
Without using the word Bama, tell me why the SEC is the powerhouse conference? Seriously, just try to make the case. Yeesh.
OU's best full game of the year.
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Post by Baph on Jan 3, 2017 1:42:47 GMT -5
The Big 10 is currently 3-7 in bowl games.
Pac 12 is 3-3 with all 3 wins coming by 3 pts or less.
Big 12 is 4-2 including a 2-1 record over the hyper dominant SEC, which is currently .500 in bowl games.
The ACC is absolutely killing it, 8-3 in bowl games, 3-1 vs the SEC, and a team in the finals with a good shot to win it all. The ACC, folks.
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Post by Baph on Jan 3, 2017 13:10:33 GMT -5
Average points allowed in 2016 Bowl Games:
Big 12 - 19.8 ACC - 23.7 B1G - 24.5 PAC 12 - 26.3 SEC - 34.2
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Post by sooner2 on Jan 3, 2017 15:07:14 GMT -5
Average points allowed in 2016 Bowl Games: Big 12 - 19.8 ACC - 23.7 B1G - 24.5 PAC 12 - 26.3 SEC - 34.2 And keep in mind that nearly all B12 bowl games involved P5 opponents. Only exception was Baylor, and they beat arguably one of the top G5 opponents (boise). Nope... no conference Usa or mac or aac opponents. That's always been something that's bugged me about the s e c bowl record advocates. They usually rack up several bowl wins each season with their middle and lower teir schools beating up on G5 programs I always am hesitant to base the verdict on confermce strength rankings based upon bowl games alone. The bowl games are so wildly unpredictable. But either way.... although the B12 was not one of the top 2 conferences this year , ibthink it's safe to say that much of the perception about b12 being such a weak conference... and soooo far behind the perceived elite B10 and SEC ... was not entirely correct . I have said all year long that the two top leagues were the acc and b10. They won many key games in non conference play agaisnt top opponents, and each had tough programs that battled for the conf titles. And although the b10 didn't have a great bowl record,psu and michigabplayed in very close games against opponents that no one wanted to play at years end. I think b12 should be ranked in 3 or 4 best conference. And it should be clear to anyone who is not an sec espn media shill that damn good football is played there. And can we now officially do away with the terms sec defense. Sec schedule. Sec gauntlet. Sec speed. And sec physicality??? Those terms have no relevance since 2012. Any media member using them is lazy and uninformed. U wanna say bama speed? Bama talent? Bama defense? Bama physicality? The bama method? The bama program? Bama depth? I got zero argument.
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Post by Baph on Jan 4, 2017 3:12:03 GMT -5
Agreed.
So, here's the icing on the cake: Clemson by 13.
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