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Post by TitoOrtizIsAPunk on Oct 14, 2016 16:15:25 GMT -5
He says that knowing that Cyborg said she's not fighting at 135.
And funny people still keep throwing out the steroids, is she the only one that figured out how to get passed USADA?
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Post by clubman on Oct 14, 2016 17:12:36 GMT -5
if Rhonda loses, the fight with cyborg will happen because she has nothing to lose. if she wins, dana wont want any part of destroying her again. fighting cyborg after losing in december is a good gamble to quickly cash in and give her credibility if she wins and get her a title shot again. if she loses against cyborg after losing in december, the ufc will spin it as no one will care cause she went up to face a stronger opponent. either way knowing that shes back and is going to get the Conor treatment is making me feel gross.
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Post by Angelo on Oct 14, 2016 17:21:03 GMT -5
if Rhonda loses, the fight with cyborg will happen because she has nothing to lose. if she wins, dana wont want any part of destroying her again. You realize though Dana said if Rousey wins, Cyborg is the next fight for her? If she loses she won't be facing Cyborg.
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Post by daywork on Oct 15, 2016 1:13:45 GMT -5
Ronda want the title shot because "IF" she wins. She will have the belt to hide behind. She knows Cyborg can't/won't make 135
Just admit it, you don't want to Ronda to fight Cyborg as much as Ronda doesn't want to fight her. LOL Its been more then four years since Ronda said, I'll fight you anywhere anytime. I'll fight you in the parking lot.
Hey, I get it. No big names want to fight Cyborg. There is a lot of " I would love to fight her" comments but only the no names steps up to fight. Holly also turned down a fight with Cyborg.
I don't think we'll ever see that fight, and by chance they do set it up. Its going to be to late and most won't care about it. If Ronda wins she say "I'm the champ, you have to come to me" and if she loses. She'll retire.
Oh and she doesn't get paid the same for every fight ( I don't think). Doesn't she get PPV %? Dana was going to put her on the card with Conor. That would've been a high selling card.
Ronda is the draw when it comes to her PPVs so I don't think there will be much of a difference between her coming back and fighting Nunes, Cyborg, Holly or anyone. When she returns, she will probably pull 1 million PPV buys by herself - the opponent is meaningless, IMO. She's going to get bank and the best way to upsell her fight with Cyborg is if she has the title. Marketing wise, fight promotion wise - her fighting Nunes first makes sense. Even if she loses, they can still sell another Ronda fight. If she wins, they can sell a Ronda fight. If she comes back and fights Cyborg first, and loses, she is not getting a title shot and then the UFC may get only one fight out of her. So from the UFC and Ronda's perspective, Cyborg is not priority #1. Now, as for "fairness". Listen buddy - let me know when Cyborg fights a top 20 opponent. I get wanting to see superfights but Cyborg is the most unproven fighter in the history of MMA that has no credible argument for getting a title shot at anyone. How long can she ride her victory over Gina Carano? An entire career? She also beat Marlos Coehen who herself wants no part of the UFC 135 division so I don't even rank her anymore. I do want to see it. I want to see Cyborg fight any name opponent so we can judge her skills. We haven't seen her fight anyone yet she barks and barks like all these clowns that call out Conor. I don't care about what they said to each other a decade ago in Strikeforce and it's irrelevant today. What is relevant is the weight Cyborg needs to get to, the weight she claimed she could but it remains the weight she wants no part of. if she gets to 135 and becomes the champ and can clean out the Ronda, Amanda, Holly, Meisha, etc, crew then she will rightfully be credited as the greatest female mixed martial artist ever. Let's see her prove it instead of yapping about it. Yeah, It would be nice to see a top 20, top 10 girl fight Cyborg. I'd like to see it. I think Cyborg would fight any of them. Now if any of them would take a fight with Cyborg is a different story.
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Post by daywork on Oct 15, 2016 1:16:23 GMT -5
if Rhonda loses, the fight with cyborg will happen because she has nothing to lose. if she wins, dana wont want any part of destroying her again. You realize though Dana said if Rousey wins, Cyborg is the next fight for her? If she loses she won't be facing Cyborg. No, no. He said if she won they would "try" to set something up.
The only way these two fight is if they fight at 140. Its not going to happen. I don't think anyways.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2016 12:58:29 GMT -5
I could see many of the women saying fuck it and moving up to fight cyborg. I wouldn't doubt if we see tate or holm fight her before next year's end.
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Post by adamg01 on Oct 15, 2016 16:30:54 GMT -5
Until a female comes along that can actually carry a weak card to nearly a million buys, all of the other women under the UFC banner are still living in Ronda's world.
Pena's manager needs to set her down and be very subtle with her, she is still young. Tell her:
"Listen, you little fucking twit no one gives a 3rd world fuck about you. Unless you want to be beating up on part time waitresses in the minor leagues like Cyroid, shut the fuck up and wait your turn."
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Post by Premier on Oct 17, 2016 8:45:27 GMT -5
I could see many of the women saying fuck it and moving up to fight cyborg. I wouldn't doubt if we see tate or holm fight her before next year's end. Cyborg could be the money fight. like a Conor situation. So yes, I see people following her to 145 just to get some cash.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 17:46:51 GMT -5
I could see many of the women saying fuck it and moving up to fight cyborg. I wouldn't doubt if we see tate or holm fight her before next year's end. Cyborg could be the money fight. like a Conor situation. So yes, I see people following her to 145 just to get some cash. Sure could be. I think many would tune in to see Cyborg take on someone like Tate.
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Post by daywork on Oct 17, 2016 18:39:59 GMT -5
I thought I read that Holly already turned down a fight with Cyborg. I could see Tate taking the fight. But I don't think it would end well for her.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 18:45:04 GMT -5
Honestly, I'm interested in seeing what happens when one of these top talents take on Cybrog.
If Pena wanted that title shot, all she has to do is call out Cyborg...and win. Guaranteed Dana makes that fight...
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Post by Premier on Oct 17, 2016 19:10:05 GMT -5
The Holly fight will be perfect. Striker vs striker.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 19:18:19 GMT -5
A motivated Zingano would be pretty good for starters imo. Always wanted to see that fight and although Zingano seems to have dropped off a bit, I still want to see it.
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Post by jsporty1 on Oct 18, 2016 13:44:35 GMT -5
A motivated Zingano would be pretty good for starters imo. Always wanted to see that fight and although Zingano seems to have dropped off a bit, I still want to see it. From what I've read, Cat is motivated as hell. She changed camps and pretty much everything about her training. She's ready to get back after it.
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