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Post by slaytan on Mar 20, 2020 18:31:00 GMT -5
It shouldn't even phase me anymore, but the senators on the Intel committee selling out their portfolios before warning the American people is heartbreaking to me. So around that time my friend and I were already bracing for pandemonium from this virus. If I were in the stock market good chance I would ave dumped or shorted around the same time.
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Post by cybergod on Mar 21, 2020 12:32:22 GMT -5
It shouldn't even phase me anymore, but the senators on the Intel committee selling out their portfolios before warning the American people is heartbreaking to me.
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Post by andrewk1988 on Mar 24, 2020 9:57:24 GMT -5
I was waiting for the "economy is more important than health of citizens" debate to start. Looks like it has.
There is a real interesting overlap of 'abortion is murder' and '1-2% of the population is not worth our economy' people. It's interesting to see and hear, not that anyone will actually get pressed on squaring those two stances.
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Post by HumanAgent on Apr 2, 2020 15:26:43 GMT -5
Here comes a war with Venezuela!
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Post by cybergod on Apr 10, 2020 16:22:12 GMT -5
A trip down memory lane as we explore the Carnival-Barker-In-Chief's all-to-slow metamorphisis from delusional egocentric day-tripper into his heroic new identity: Anti-Covid Man:
January 20: I know more about viruses than anyone.”
January 22: “We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China. It’s going to be just fine.”
February 2: “We pretty much shut it down coming in from China.”
February 24: “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA… Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”
February 25: “CDC and my Administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus.”
February 25: “I think that's a problem that’s going to go away… They have studied it. They know very much. In fact, we’re very close to a vaccine.”
February 26: “The 15 (cases in the US) within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero.”
February 26: “We're going very substantially down, not up.”
February 27: “One day it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”
February 28: “We're ordering a lot of supplies. We're ordering a lot of, uh, elements that frankly we wouldn't be ordering unless it was something like this. But we're ordering a lot of different elements of medical.”
March 2: “You take a solid flu vaccine, you don't think that could have an impact, or much of an impact, on corona?”
March 2: “A lot of things are happening, a lot of very exciting things are happening and they’re happening very rapidly.”
March 4: “If we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work — some of them go to work, but they get better.”
March 5: “I NEVER said people that are feeling sick should go to work.”
March 5: “The United States… has, as of now, only 129 cases… and 11 deaths. We are working very hard to keep these numbers as low as possible!”
March 6: “I think we’re doing a really good job in this country at keeping it down… a tremendous job at keeping it down.”
March 6: “Anybody right now, and yesterday, anybody that needs a test gets a test. They’re there. And the tests are beautiful…. the tests are all perfect like the letter was perfect. The transcription was perfect. Right? This was not as perfect as that but pretty good.”
March 6: “I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it… Every one of these doctors said, ‘How do you know so much about this?’ Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president.”
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Post by slaytan on Apr 10, 2020 17:43:14 GMT -5
Trump is doing a fine job in this plague era, cyber. Your opposition to him is grounded in superficialities. Trump says cringey stuff (which, when listened to within the greater context of an entire speech, are not bad at all) -but not as cringey as you (buffoon)r boy, Blumberg. But trump also makes good decisions
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Post by cybergod on Apr 10, 2020 19:27:15 GMT -5
^^^ Actually, I can't disagree. Most of his decisions have been sound, although a few days late, which is why I can't sing the accusatory songs coming from the Left. I simply offered up the previous quotes to illustrate how his massive ego and stubbornness actually detract from his credibility and effectiveness. The guy simply won't listen to advisors' recommendations until they practically slap him upside his head, contradicts himself within minutes of saying something, etc.
He needs to get up there, turn over the mic to the experts, and shut up. It wouldn't hurt for him to put aside his churlishness with the Press either. He's making Sleepy Joe look good by comparison, and THAT ain't easy.
No, I DON'T want a Democratic president to take office next year either. I'm just gonna hold my nose, vote for ALL Republican candidates and leave the Presidential box empty in November.
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Post by cybergod on Apr 13, 2020 2:46:01 GMT -5
On the other hand, Garth, a solid argument can be made that Trump's "good decisions" (as we both call them) SHOULD HAVE BEEN MADE SOONER....and more than a few days sooner, as I opined in the above post prior to reading the timeline below.It's excerpted from the April 11 NYTimes, so it's accurate and biased all at once: "Despite Mr. Trump’s denial weeks later, he was told at the time about a Jan. 29 memo produced by his trade adviser, Peter Navarro, laying out in striking detail the potential risks of a coronavirus pandemic: as many as half a million deaths and trillions of dollars in economic losses.The health and human services secretary, Alex M. Azar II, directly warned Mr. Trump of the possibility of a pandemic during a call on Jan. 30, the second warning he delivered to the president about the virus in two weeks. The president, who was on Air Force One while traveling for appearances in the Midwest, responded that Mr. Azar was being alarmist.Mr. Azar publicly announced in February that the government was establishing a “surveillance” system in five American cities to measure the spread of the virus and enable experts to project the next hot spots. It was delayed for weeks. The slow start of that plan, on top of the well-documented failures to develop the nation’s testing capacity, left administration officials with almost no insight into how rapidly the virus was spreading. “We were flying the plane with no instruments,” one official said. By the third week in February, the administration’s top public health experts concluded they should recommend to Mr. Trump a new approach that would include warning the American people of the risks and urging steps like social distancing and staying home from work. But the White House focused instead on messaging and crucial additional weeks went by before their views were reluctantly accepted by the president — time when the virus spread largely unimpeded.When Mr. Trump finally agreed in mid-March to recommend social distancing across the country, effectively bringing much of the economy to a halt, he seemed shellshocked and deflated to some of his closest associates. One described him as “subdued” and “baffled” by how the crisis had played out. An economy that he had wagered his re-election on was suddenly in shambles. He only regained his swagger, the associate said, from conducting his daily White House briefings, at which he often seeks to rewrite the history of the past several months. He declared at one point that he “felt it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic,” and insisted at another that he had to be a “cheerleader for the country,” as if that explained why he failed to prepare the public for what was coming." www.nytimes.com/2020/04/11/u...-response.html
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Post by cybergod on Apr 13, 2020 3:01:48 GMT -5
In my opinion, the above facts are NOT mere superficialities.
A competent and effective leader LISTENS to his expert advisors. That's why they are called "experts".
That's Game, Set and Match as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by cybergod on Apr 13, 2020 3:15:37 GMT -5
Is it too late to draft NY Gov. Cuomo for the Top Job?
Oh, it is?
GODDAMNIT.
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Post by cybergod on Apr 14, 2020 9:53:55 GMT -5
The Trump Comedy Hour just keeps topping itself, day after day. With regard to The Donald's jaw-dropping claim of having "total authority" with regard to re-opening individual states from quarantine, Rep. Liz Cheney responded in a tweet: "The federal government does not have absolute power.
“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.” United States Constitution, Amendment X"
Jonathan Turley, a constitutional law professor at George Washington University who was the sole witness called by Republicans before the Judiciary Committee in the impeachment inquiry into Trump, refuted Trump's claim in a tweet: "The Constitution was written precisely [to] deny that particular claim. It also reserved to the states (& individuals) rights not expressly given to the federal government." New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, a Democrat, also responded to Trump’s remarks in an interview with CNN on Monday night, saying, "The President doesn't have total authority. We have a Constitution. We don't have a king." While it's true that the federal government does have extraordinary powers to declare quarantines and limit interstate travel, Trump has not invoked them. It's not bad enough that Joe Biden is slowly slipping mentally, now we have Trump going off the rails into full-blown megalomania, rather than his usual state of mere self-centered hubris. I suppose a clinical psychologist would find it interesting, but it's scary as Hell if you really dwell on it. Funny, but Trump's travel down Tyranny Lane in Dictatortown has me pining for NYC Democrats! First Bloomberg, now Andrew Cuomo! Weird times, indeed. The last Democrat I ever voted for in a presidential race was Jimmy Carter. Hey, I have no excuse...but I was 24, OK? I thought it was really just crass politics when the Democrats were talking about invoking the 25th Amendment a year or two ago. Now, I'm thinking about it.
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