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Post by cybergod on Feb 13, 2020 17:53:05 GMT -5
It's too bad there is NO ONE to vote for on the Democrats' side. A more ridiculous group of embarrassing poseurs cannot be found within the Milky Way galaxy.
But Trump has become a goddamned walking cartoon. Clumsily walking into an impeachment after arm-twisting another nation's leader, illegally trying a quid pro quo deal to gain a political advantage over a prospective Democratic foe that HE COULD HAVE EASILY BEATEN ANYWAY.
During this fiasco, we had to witness his cowardly disparagement of Lt. Col. Vindman....a decorated soldier injured in a combat zone. Nothing like getting criticized by a spoiled rich kid (whose "bone spurs" somehow led to multiple draft deferments during the Vietnam conflict), after you've risked your life fulfilling your oath.
Trump's brazen interference in the Uniform Code of Military Justice case against Navy CPO Edward Gallagher.... a commando leader accused BY HIS OWN PLATOON of multiple war crimes, including multiple murder, is the most alarming and selfish act by a U.S. president I've seen in my lifetime. This guy CLEARLY sees himself as some kind of "law unto himself". Gallagher's murder trial was short-circuited by the president, and this loose-cannon killer (again, according to Navy SEALS he led, and now say who is "evil") was allowed to retire with full rank and honors. It's a goddamned travesty.
Oh, but the Orange One isn't done. He's now interfering in the criminal sentencing of Roger Stone, already convicted and initially sentenced to 7 - 9 years. He's gone full- bore egomaniacal since his impeachment-acquittal in the Senate, punishing his perceived "enemies" regardless of appearances or -- heaven forbid -- FAIRNESS. Both Vindman brothers have already been unceremoniously dismissed from their White House posts, although neither DID A DAMNED THING WRONG.
Why doesn't this motherfucker just go ahead and PARDON these fools, rather than pre-empt the legal process (in the Gallagher case especially)?
The answer is a sad one....Donald Trump, 73 years old and pushing 14/15 in emotional maturity, is simply drunk with power and wants to swing his dick! It's both frightening and fascinating....we're witnessing a temper tantrum from somebody's grandpa. What happens when this asshole gets a LEGITIMATE reason to go full-retard?
Sadly, I won't be able to vote for President in the goddamn November election. I refuse to support this embarrassment of a chief executive again. I'm leaving the damn box for that office blank.
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Post by cybergod on Feb 13, 2020 18:37:09 GMT -5
From Business Insider:
NAVY SEAL SLAMS TRUMP FOR PARDONING EDDIE GALLAGHER: SHOOTING CIVILIANS AND EXECUTING PRISONERS SHOULDN'T BE POLITICAL
"President Donald Trump's interventions in the military justice system to protect service members from war-crimes charges has upset many service members as well as Pentagon leadership.
One SEAL who testified against Chief Petty Officer Edward Gallagher during his trial criticized Trump and other politicians, including Republican Rep. Duncan Hunter, for intervening in the case.
"When you look at politicians getting involved in military justice — whether it's a congressman from San Diego or the president — with their involvement, it isn't justice," the SEAL, who was granted anonymity because he feared for his safety, said in a Tuesday interview with The San Diego Union-Tribune. "It's political, when shooting civilians and executing prisoners shouldn't be."
Gallagher was charged with several crimes, including murder, after fellow SEALs accused him of stabbing to death a young ISIS fighter who his platoon had captured and medically stabilized. Gallagher then posed with the dead teenager, holding him up by his hair.
His platoon also accused him of targeting civilians, including women and children, while shooting from sniper nests in Mosul.
Seven of the 22 SEALS in Gallagher's platoon testified against him. Gallagher has denied the charges and said the allegations were "blatant lies" made up by unhappy members of the platoon in an effort to force him out.
This week, The New York Times released videos of members of Gallagher's SEAL platoon describing his alleged crimes to Navy investigators in shocking and sometimes emotional interviews. The Times obtained thousands of text messages between the SEALs and hours of video recordings of the investigators' interviews.
"The guy is freaking evil, man," Special Operator First Class Craig Miller said in the video. "You could tell he was perfectly okay with killing anybody that was moving," Special Operator First Class Corey Scott said.
Trump intervened even before the start of Gallagher's trial, which was also marred by prosecutorial misconduct. In July, Gallagher was acquitted on all counts except for one minor charge of posing for a celebratory photo with the captive's corpse."
Sarah Gray and Ellen Ioanes contributed to this report.
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Post by andrewk1988 on Feb 13, 2020 19:44:04 GMT -5
This may be the only post in the history of you posting that I agree with from top to bottom.
I like to think that I completely saw this shit coming. But the scary part about it is the normalization of the openly corrupt behavior. I guess I understand the "at least he's honest about it" aspect of Trump voters in 2016, but at some point it's gotta be hard to stomach. The moment he brought Barr into the fold, I thought that a lot of the "old school conservatives" would wake up, since he was the face of the government's war on the old right and civil liberties in the 90s. But, I can't really tell if it's happening.
And whenever he is gone, are we just going to snap back to "normalcy"? I mean conservative pundits and people are going to have a tough putt decrying corruption from the next D president. And the next D president is going to be corrupt in one way or another and what's he/she supposed to try to pull the curtain closed? Is the liberal branch of the media going to hold them accountable or just go with the "well Trump did it" excuse that ushered in Trumpism(Well Obama was worse!)?
The DNC is going to cock block Bernie, and it'll probably be Bloomberg who gets the nom. Two NY scheisters going head to head. Real 'of the people, for the people' scenario there. Bernie isn't the "socialist" that the media paints him out to be, but he's not going to accomplish anything he's set out because he's already so divisive just like Trump. But he at least has a chance, because of the energetic and youthful grassrooted base he still has. And more importantly, by all indicators, he's the will of the people who are voting D. It's just going to highlight the open corruption from the DNC to match the open corruption from the GOP/Trump.
I hate to endorse Russian tactics, but I wish we could do a clean slate mass government resignation with zero incumbents allowed in November. Elect everyone who's up for it and do it again for the rest in 2022. Maybe the GOP would pull it's out of it's collective ass and put forth a legitimate candidate with some legitimate ideas.
But in reality, Trump and this whole situation the US is in is solely because of the baby boomer generation. They've reaped what they've sewn. It was originally called the "Me" generation before some excellent rebranding, because all they care about is them. They see, and have always seen, the world as revolving around them. It's where the doomsday devil is the end times demon idea of Christianity came from. They think the world is going to be coming to an end because it is for them. They (sub? )consciously realize that it's all about getting while the getting is good. I talk to my dad about politics and he's always been pretty progressive/outside the box with his opinions about life and politics. But he has come around to the "well the stock market is going up, why would I not want to keep the status quo?" boomer way of thinking. The stock market is A) a piss poor indicator of the health of the economy and B) is historically proven to be a bad omen when it continually rises. But he can't be bothered with that. He's retired and his entire life's work is tied up in it. He has zero choice but to hope the status quo continues until he dies. I mean, obviously he has a choice. But as if he's a simile for his entire generation, is taking the 'sorry son, I gotta get mine, you and your sister and the other younger generations are going to have to figure this out after I'm dead and gone. You guys take one for the team' route.
Overall, it's just a sad state of affairs right now.
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Post by Fasthands25 on Feb 14, 2020 16:57:54 GMT -5
Ok boomer
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Post by HumanAgent on Feb 14, 2020 19:34:30 GMT -5
If a tree falls in the forest, and there's nobody around to hear.....
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Post by cybergod on Feb 15, 2020 18:38:58 GMT -5
If Bloomberg gets the nomination I'm all in. Otherwise I'll simply not cast a ballot for that particular office. No way I'm giving another vote to this lunatic we're stuck with now....
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Post by Premier on Feb 16, 2020 2:44:55 GMT -5
Did Cybers account get hacked or something?
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Post by slaytan on Feb 16, 2020 7:25:24 GMT -5
If Bloomberg gets the nomination I'm all in. Otherwise I'll simply not cast a ballot for that particular office. No way I'm giving another vote to this lunatic we're stuck with now.... Are you serious? Bloom fucking berg?
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Post by cybergod on Feb 16, 2020 8:55:35 GMT -5
No hacking/bad LSD trips/temporary insanity -- or anything else like that -- going on here. Just the realization that we have an egomaniac in the White House that has no self-restraint or concept of what the proper limits of his powers are.
Yeah, Michael Bloomberg. Despite his nanny-state tendencies (Big Gulp, anyone?), he at least is another successful businessman whose mind isn't clouded with welfare-state whining episodes. This is a guy who used stop-and-frisk as an effective tool against street crime until the courts stopped him. He's Trump with the 40D-breasted girlfriends all paid off and quiet. He's no more a Democrat than I am.
I'd take him over DJT anytime.
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Post by Premier on Feb 16, 2020 11:33:50 GMT -5
No hacking/bad LSD trips/temporary insanity -- or anything else like that -- going on here. Just the realization that we have an egomaniac in the White House that has no self-restraint or concept of what the proper limits of his powers are. Yeah, Michael Bloomberg. Despite his nanny-state tendencies (Big Gulp, anyone?), he at least is another successful businessman whose mind isn't clouded with welfare-state whining episodes. This is a guy who used stop-and-frisk as an effective tool against street crime until the courts stopped him. He's Trump with the 40D-breasted girlfriends all paid off and quiet. He's no more a Democrat than I am. I'd take him over DJT anytime. I agree. But I'll still take him over any of the other candidates. Fully knowing that he is an egomaniac.
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Post by slaytan on Feb 17, 2020 11:55:09 GMT -5
No hacking/bad LSD trips/temporary insanity -- or anything else like that -- going on here. Just the realization that we have an egomaniac in the White House that has no self-restraint or concept of what the proper limits of his powers are. Yeah, Michael Bloomberg. Despite his nanny-state tendencies (Big Gulp, anyone?), he at least is another successful businessman whose mind isn't clouded with welfare-state whining episodes. This is a guy who used stop-and-frisk as an effective tool against street crime until the courts stopped him. He's Trump with the 40D-breasted girlfriends all paid off and quiet. He's no more a Democrat than I am. I'd take him over DJT anytime. This is pure gullibility. Bloomberg is as corrupt as it gets
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Post by andrewk1988 on Feb 17, 2020 13:20:06 GMT -5
Gotta agree with Lord Garth here. If it is Bloomberg vs Trump in November, it will be the most openly corrupt election in US history. Don't accuse me of absolving Hillary, but as far as open corruption, Bloomberg is worse. He hasn't been as politically powerful, but still.
I really want to see Trump vs Sanders. It's the closest to the will of the two sides of the nation going head to head. Marquee match-up.
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Post by cybergod on Feb 17, 2020 17:09:41 GMT -5
"Corrupt" is a strong word boys. Can you give me any examples of this alleged misbehavior? For instance, any shady deals as NYC mayor? Or anything before that?
'Cuz it's either Bloomberg or nobody getting my vote this time. So if either, or both, of you have any real dirt, let's hear it. If I learn anything substantially bad, I'd be glad to withhold my Presidential vote completely.
As for Trump vs. Sanders: give me a break. DJT would wipe the floor with that socialist clown, and even the Dems know it. The remaining bozos left in the race are starting to attack his plans now, obviously because nobody thought he'd get this far.
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Post by andrewk1988 on Feb 17, 2020 17:51:24 GMT -5
As far as the corruption that I've read about with Bloomberg, it's been using his news network to manipulate stocks and a story I read about his involvement in a NY PAC that was funding a plan to systematically recruit and educate Lawyers at NYU and place them as federal judges in districts where they could make rulings against their enemies in the energy sector.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2020 21:27:59 GMT -5
I don’t vote with feelings or bunched panties... I vote based on results and performance. Djt has fucking crushed every measure of performance and improvement that doesn’t base itself on sensitive feelings. He has done more to strengthen our country in 3 years than anyone thought possible. Everyone who isn’t a pos is better off today than they were 3 years ago, our military is stronger, our small businesses are more profitable and stable, Mexico, Canada and China have fallen in line, and the shitheads internationally are actually scared of us.
If you don’t want to vote for him because he’s an asshole, self centered, annoying, or belligerent that’s fine... but saying he’s corrupt and you are going to vote for another politician because they aren’t shows your stupidity. Every politician is corrupt to the core, it’s just the media and deep state covers for most of them and djt gets accused of everything no matter what the truth is.
Bloomberg getting any support from the left is literally the most laughable turn of events imaginable. He’s a liberal Donald Trump... and supposedly djt is the devil to the liberals but when the media framed him as hating djt he’s the second coming of Christ?
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Post by cybergod on Feb 18, 2020 8:07:04 GMT -5
I don't really expect Bloomberg to get the nomination; I fully expect my Presidential box to be unfilled when I mail-in my absentee vote this October.
Especially now that there's hilarious speculation about HILLARY joining him as a running mate! The Democrats just keep getting nuttier and further adrift from reality by the day.
But there are more than just selfish personal considerations at play when evaluating a president, and deciding whether to vote for him. Donald Trump's arrogant interference IN THE JUSTICE SYSTEM -- both military and civilian -- is scary and almost unprecedented. Its implications with regard to FUTURE behavior by yet-unknown chief executives is dire. It's foolish to pooh-pooh such concerns.
As I noted in my first post in this thread, there is another LEGITIMATE tool for a president to use if he feels someone has been wronged in a criminal prosecution....he or she can PARDON them. But questioning a sentencing recommendation by a Federal prosecutor, OR interfering in a military court-martial is the kind of conduct more befitting a dictator in some third-world shithole.
John Boehner used to criticize the Mulatto-in-Chief (who had the advantage of a compliant Congress) for his "my-way-or-the-highway" marching orders, saying "We didn't elect a king." Republicans deplored such conduct by Obama.
NOW, our esteemed Supreme Leader threatens the very separation of powers inherent in our republic, and loyal Republicans cheer.
Strange days, indeed.
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Post by slaytan on Feb 18, 2020 18:16:55 GMT -5
I fear that Cyber is slipping into dementia
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2020 18:34:17 GMT -5
Bloomberg is on unapologetic racist which is where I think he appeals to Cyber. I really want him to get the nomination and watch how the media covers up his decades of sexism and racism that are 100x worse than anything trump has done or said. It will hopefully open peoples eyes to how fucking sick the media really is.
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Post by andrewk1988 on Feb 18, 2020 18:50:36 GMT -5
Bloomberg is on unapologetic racist which is where I think he appeals to Cyber. I really want him to get the nomination and watch how the media covers up his decades of sexism and racism that are 100x worse than anything trump has done or said. It will hopefully open peoples eyes to how fucking sick the media really is. They don't give a fuck about Trump's, why would they care about Bloomberg? And since when do you care who's racist?
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Post by andrewk1988 on Feb 18, 2020 18:53:10 GMT -5
I fear that Cyber is slipping into dementia Because he's not a Trump loyalist? He obviously cares about the justice system based on his decade + of amateur court reporting on this board. Trump has turned the DOJ into an openly corrupt weapon of his administration. Not exactly hard to draw the line to how he fell out of line with you here.
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Post by cybergod on Feb 18, 2020 19:19:56 GMT -5
Interesting sequence of opinions above. One guy assumes I support racist candidates and another wonders if I'm going senile.
You're both wrong, and fuck both of you.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2020 20:04:55 GMT -5
Bloomberg is on unapologetic racist which is where I think he appeals to Cyber. I really want him to get the nomination and watch how the media covers up his decades of sexism and racism that are 100x worse than anything trump has done or said. It will hopefully open peoples eyes to how fucking sick the media really is. They don't give a fuck about Trump's, why would they care about Bloomberg? And since when do you care who's racist? They don’t care that trump is a “racist” (even though he isn’t)? The media has done nothing but try to sink him and tear him down based on fabricated racism. I’m not racist... I’m just smart enough to see the truth and not too pussy to call things at face value.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2020 20:05:48 GMT -5
Interesting sequence of opinions above. One guy assumes I support racist candidates and another wonders if I'm going senile. You're both wrong, and fuck both of you. When you call Obama the mulato in chief you have lost all ability to say you are not racist.
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Post by andrewk1988 on Feb 18, 2020 21:27:04 GMT -5
They don't give a fuck about Trump's, why would they care about Bloomberg? And since when do you care who's racist? They don’t care that trump is a “racist” (even though he isn’t)? The media has done nothing but try to sink him and tear him down based on fabricated racism. I’m not racist... I’m just smart enough to see the truth and not too pussy to call things at face value. The irony is sweet with this post. You just got done calling Bloomberg racist.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2020 1:19:30 GMT -5
They don’t care that trump is a “racist” (even though he isn’t)? The media has done nothing but try to sink him and tear him down based on fabricated racism. I’m not racist... I’m just smart enough to see the truth and not too pussy to call things at face value. The irony is sweet with this post. You just got done calling Bloomberg racist. See this is where people like you make discussion and debate in this country impossible. Your stupid logic makes it so someone like me can’t even discuss race related topics because you think you are enlightened and superior and are more qualified to understand the complete topic of race and oppression. I have only ever dealt in facts here, like saying blacks people are statistically more violent, or native Americans are statistically more prone to substance abuse, or white men are statistically more likely to be pedophiles.... but you are such a sensitive/smug person that you say a white/male/conservative/upper class person isn’t capable of having an opinion or discussing race.
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Post by andrewk1988 on Feb 19, 2020 8:35:48 GMT -5
I didn't say one word about you being racist. The irony is that you just got done calling Bloomberg a racist, but there's zero chance Trump is. But Bloomberg, a guy you didn't even know who he was a month ago, is definitely a racist and you know this zero doubt.
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Post by slaytan on Feb 19, 2020 21:05:12 GMT -5
The original post at the top of this thread is the very definition of dildory. Interesting to see cyber god parroting talking points for dumbasses.
“Trump tried to illegally gain advantage over a political opponent with a quid pro quo” Wrong... dildo. There was nothing illegal about trump asking for Biden’s brazenly corrupt ventures in the Ukraine. Absolutely nothing illegal, nor improper, even if there was a “quid pro quo,” which, by the way, is how foreign policy is, and should be, conducted. He knew he would beat Biden regardless, and you acknowledge this, thereby blowing your own argument out of the water. Trump wants these corrupt fucks exposed, and he’s allowed to.
“He criticized Vindmann, a decorated soldier! Derf derf!!” Yes, he did. He has this in common with... decorated soldiers who served with decorated Vindman. Several have had lots to say...dildo
“Derf derf, he pardoned a seal and interferes with Military Justice!” That’s his prerogative... dildo. He’s sending a message to soldiers: “Don’t be afraid to kill the enemy”, and sending another one to the enemy: Trump’s Army will fucking kill you.
I’m surprised you didn’t go into “grabbing by the pussy” and “he puts children in cages.” For whatever reason your mind has succumbed to media memes and you’ve made an ass of yourself. Trump’s not perfect, but you’re a total fuckstick
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2020 0:27:40 GMT -5
I didn't say one word about you being racist. The irony is that you just got done calling Bloomberg a racist, but there's zero chance Trump is. But Bloomberg, a guy you didn't even know who he was a month ago, is definitely a racist and you know this zero doubt. You have called me a racist on this board no less than 50 separate times... fact I have known about Bloomberg for 15 years or more and anyone who cares about the economy will know a lot about him... fact You are a smug know it all who moves the goalpost continuously here to try to look intelligent... fact
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Post by slaytan on Feb 20, 2020 7:12:26 GMT -5
Please re read my above post after I sobered up and edited the rambling nonsense. I posted from the bowling alley in between all the ugly splits, missed spares, and gutter balls.
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Post by andrewk1988 on Feb 20, 2020 8:44:30 GMT -5
I didn't say one word about you being racist. The irony is that you just got done calling Bloomberg a racist, but there's zero chance Trump is. But Bloomberg, a guy you didn't even know who he was a month ago, is definitely a racist and you know this zero doubt. You have called me a racist on this board no less than 50 separate times... fact I have known about Bloomberg for 15 years or more and anyone who cares about the economy will know a lot about him... fact You are a smug know it all who moves the goalpost continuously here to try to look intelligent... fact This is telling about what you consider fact. There is 0.0% chance that I've called you a racist 10 times, let alone 50. I can think of 3, but I'll give you 10 to make sure I'm right. You are intellectually insecure, because I haven't insulted anyone's intelligence....lately. And I haven't moved the goalposts, so you might want to re-consult your "Fallacies for Dummies" book. I pointed out some irony.
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