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Post by andrewk1988 on Nov 28, 2019 21:20:54 GMT -5
I hope Cowboy wins, because Connor has pretty much run his course and has shown he's not exactly a stand up guy.
But, I'd probably have to bet on McGregor.
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Post by johncfc on Nov 29, 2019 16:08:17 GMT -5
Strange fight seeing as it is at WW. I’ve read that it is at WW because Conor doesn’t have enough time to cut to LW. I know the fight is only a month and a half away, but what fighting shape must Conor be in?
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Post by MMAJim on Nov 29, 2019 23:00:57 GMT -5
I think McNugget is a talented enough striker to outclass and probably knockout Cowboy. Cowboy has a shot. I’d think he’d have to start strong and keep pressure in McNugget for the start, which isn’t something he’s known for. Probably would be wise to keep the threat of ground game constant as well.
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Post by floater on Nov 30, 2019 4:56:55 GMT -5
I really wish this fight was at 155...
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Post by vegeta420z on Nov 30, 2019 15:46:28 GMT -5
Strange fight seeing as it is at WW. I’ve read that it is at WW because Conor doesn’t have enough time to cut to LW. I know the fight is only a month and a half away, but what fighting shape must Conor be in?I just had an article pop up on my Google feed, talking About how much muscle connor has put on, it said he's been hitting the weights pretty hard. I don't remember whT site it was on and I only slimmed the article, but yeah not being able to make 55 don't mean he's not in shape, and I say this as someone who isn't at all a connor fan. Can't believe people not giving cowboy a shot in this.one at WW, I think Cerone is going to brutally KO McGregor and I think he does in 3rd or sooner.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2019 20:42:18 GMT -5
Cowboy usually shits the bed in his important fights. Would like to see him end that shit.
But id really like to see Jorge beat Conor up.
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Post by mmadoc on Dec 3, 2019 18:58:36 GMT -5
I wish Cowboy could have gotten this fight 4 years ago. Cowboy has a huge heart, but he has slowed. This is about as easy a fight for CM, that the UFC could set up for more $$$ down the road. That said, i hope Cowboy kicks butt.
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Post by johncfc on Jan 14, 2020 18:11:46 GMT -5
The fight is this Saturday and I still am not certain who I think will win.
Initially, I was leaning towards Cowboy because if Conor’s lay-off but more importantly, the fight being at WW. However, I think Conor is taking this fight seriously and is ready.
The majority of people are saying if it is a short fight Conor takes it, but if it goes to decision Cowboy will win. That seems pretty obvious going by most of Conor’s fights and Cowboy being a slow starter but good cardio.
I think the fight depends on Cowboy’s game plan. If he fights smart and uses his leg kicks and take downs, I think he’ll win. Unfortunately, I’m not sure Cowboy will do that and I think he will trade with Conor.
I’m going Conor KO round 1.
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Post by andrewk1988 on Jan 14, 2020 18:25:58 GMT -5
I just think Cowboy is going to fight to make it exciting, which leads to a Connor KO in my opinion.
I think Cowboy could execute a similar gameplan to Nate in his first fight with Connor. Weather the storm and keep distance in the first, close it in the 3rd and eventually set up a takedown and choke him out.
But big stage Cowboy doesn't lend himself to gameplans usually.
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Post by MMAJim on Jan 15, 2020 0:13:34 GMT -5
Agree with Andrew. I don’t trust that Cowboy will stick to a game plan that would be safer.
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Post by johncfc on Jan 17, 2020 17:18:06 GMT -5
Apparently Conor is making a minimum of $80 million for this fight.
Conor wins.
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Post by vegeta420z on Jan 17, 2020 18:31:26 GMT -5
I'm surprised so many people (not just here) think connor takes this or takes it easy. Connor hasn't won a fight since 2016, and he's bulked up quite a bit for this fight, that is going to further deplete his cardio (which is already suspect), and slow him down (with the height and reach advantage cowboy already has slowing for connor will be a huge deriment, and will make him an easy target).
I also think that connor has got a bit of the Brock Lesnar/Rhonda Rousey effect going on, he is surrounded by "yes men" and probably doesn't have anyone on his team to give him harsh doses of reality.
We all saw how well that set up worked for brock after Cain put the hammer on him, Or for Rousey after Holmes nearly decapitated her. They both came back but were never the same, I think the beating Kabib put on Connor probably broke his spirit, I'm sure connor believes otherwise, but I dont think having your fighting spirit intact is something you can just say ya or nay to. I think it's something deep in your core that's either still intact or its it's not (with connor I think it's not, he's gotten soft and all about just making money)
Or maybe connor doesn't give a shit about that and just wants to milk as many big paydays out of his chael sonenn antics and bullshit as he can before the world realizes how broken he really is.
All that said I still hope he cripples cowboy. I really dont like either fighter, and I think I hate cerrone even more then Connor. I always forget how much I hate Donald until lead up to his big fights, people in Colorado all fucking suck and that state should be wiped off the the planet.
Colorado is like all the worst, gayest hipster, dipshit fuktards from Oregon and California if they had kids together they'd be natural coloradoan.
This fight is the exact opposite of Nate and Masvidal (that was a fight I didn't really want to see either guy lose). This fight I'd love to see them both lose in brutal fucking fashion. But I honestly think CB takes this one (head kick early in the second)
Maybe I'll get lucky and some WWE horse shit will happen where Gambred will run out to the cage and fucking brain both of them with a steel chair.
But that's unlikely.
Oh yeah and speaking of faggots in spandex who put on softcore dry humping porn for gay perverted old men (pro wrasslin) Fuck you MMAjenny oops MMAjim (he loves the sweaty men in their dude panties, shoving their face in each others croches and ass holes, gets him to a raging full 2" chub)
Oh and just to make sure I offend some people that will act all butt hurt and leave Connor is a Ghenis swilling, whiskey bottle emptying, red headed Irish kunt, tell that fooking fook to go try to get back his lucky charms, because they are magically delicious, I dont know and maybe something or other about a car bomb.
I guess the racist stuff doesn't work as well with the whites oh well.
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Post by HumanAgent on Jan 17, 2020 19:25:59 GMT -5
I'm surprised so many people (not just here) think connor takes this or takes it easy. Connor hasn't won a fight since 2016, and he's bulked up quite a bit for this fight, that is going to further deplete his cardio (which is already suspect), and slow him down (with the height and reach advantage cowboy already has slowing for connor will be a huge deriment, and will make him an easy target). I also think that connor has got a bit of the Brock Lesnar/Rhonda Rousey effect going on, he is surrounded by "yes men" and probably doesn't have anyone on his team to give him harsh doses of reality. We all saw how well that set up worked for brock after Cain put the hammer on him, Or for Rousey after Holmes nearly decapitated her. They both came back but were never the same, I think the beating Kabib put on Connor probably broke his spirit, I'm sure connor believes otherwise, but I dont think having your fighting spirit intact is something you can just say ya or nay to. I think it's something deep in your core that's either still intact or its it's not (with connor I think it's not, he's gotten soft and all about just making money) Or maybe connor doesn't give a shit about that and just wants to milk as many big paydays out of his chael sonenn antics and bullshit as he can before the world realizes how broken he really is. All that said I still hope he cripples cowboy. I really dont like either fighter, and I think I hate cerrone even more then Connor. I always forget how much I hate Donald until lead up to his big fights, people in Colorado all fucking suck and that state should be wiped off the the planet. Colorado is like all the worst, gayest hipster, dipshit fuktards from Oregon and California if they had kids together they'd be natural coloradoan. This fight is the exact opposite of Nate and Masvidal (that was a fight I didn't really want to see either guy lose). This fight I'd love to see them both lose in brutal fucking fashion. But I honestly think CB takes this one (head kick early in the second) Maybe I'll get lucky and some WWE horse shit will happen where Gambred will run out to the cage and fucking brain both of them with a steel chair. But that's unlikely. Oh yeah and speaking of faggots in spandex who put on softcore dry humping porn for gay perverted old men (pro wrasslin) Fuck you MMAjenny oops MMAjim (he loves the sweaty men in their dude panties, shoving their face in each others croches and ass holes, gets him to a raging full 2" chub) Oh and just to make sure I offend some people that will act all butt hurt and leave Connor is a Ghenis swilling, whiskey bottle emptying, red headed Irish kunt, tell that fooking fook to go try to get back his lucky charms, because they are magically delicious, I dont know and maybe something or other about a car bomb. I guess the racist stuff doesn't work as well with the whites oh well. Conor actually has one inch reach on Cowboy. I think Conor wins, he starts fast and Cowboy starts slow. It was a Floydesque fight where he picks which fight he has the best chance of winning to set up a rematch witch Khabob.. I hope Conor wins and Tony!
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Post by daywork on Jan 18, 2020 20:18:50 GMT -5
I've said in the past I thought Conor was going to lose to whoever he came back and fought. I guess I have to stick by that. So I'm going with Cowboy. I'm a fan of Conor and like watching him fight. I just don't think he has the drive for it anymore. I guess we'll see.
I bet on Roxanne, I think she might be a good dog bet.
Jan 18 08:10 PM by: INTERNET 272965172 MU Jan 18 09:30 PM STRAIGHT BET [24121] ROXANNE MODAFFERI(W) +605 (ROXANNE MODAFFERI(W) vrs MAYCEE BARBER (W)) PENDING 25/151
Jan 18 08:10 PM by: INTERNET 272965173 MU Jan 19 12:05 AM STRAIGHT BET [24101] DONALD CERRONE +270 (DONALD CERRONE vrs CONOR MCGREGOR) PENDING 25/67
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Post by johncfc on Jan 18, 2020 21:59:46 GMT -5
I've said in the past I thought Conor was going to lose to whoever he came back and fought. I guess I have to stick by that. So I'm going with Cowboy. I'm a fan of Conor and like watching him fight. I just don't think he has the drive for it anymore. I guess we'll see. I bet on Roxanne, I think she might be a good dog bet. Jan 18 08:10 PM by: INTERNET 272965172 MU Jan 18 09:30 PM STRAIGHT BET [24121] ROXANNE MODAFFERI(W) +605 (ROXANNE MODAFFERI(W) vrs MAYCEE BARBER (W)) PENDING 25/151 Jan 18 08:10 PM by: INTERNET 272965173 MU Jan 19 12:05 AM STRAIGHT BET [24101] DONALD CERRONE +270 (DONALD CERRONE vrs CONOR MCGREGOR) PENDING 25/67 Nice work betting on Roxanne!
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Post by daywork on Jan 18, 2020 22:14:00 GMT -5
LOL yeah, got lucky on that one. I'm not a fan of Roxanne, but think she always has a shot.
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Post by vegeta420z on Jan 19, 2020 0:19:21 GMT -5
Any of you fags got a link for the main event?
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Post by vegeta420z on Jan 19, 2020 0:32:46 GMT -5
Well at least now maybe they can set up a big money fight for Masvidal vs Conor
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Post by daywork on Jan 19, 2020 1:12:02 GMT -5
Oh well, I was way off LOL. Poor Cowboy still can't win the big fights.
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Post by MMAJim on Jan 19, 2020 12:05:28 GMT -5
The way Dana White treats McNugget really pushes my limits. Connor rematch with Khabib is garbage. I don’t even care if Connor wins, he in no way deserves a title shot in any weight class.
Have him beat Wonderboy, then Woodley to earn a shot at 170.
Have him beat Gaethje and loser of Khabib/Ferguson or even Pourier for a shot at 155.
Have him fight Masvidal for a $$ spectacle event fight.
Of course the first two would never happen, not even one of those hurdles will happen.
Business-wise, short-term, I get it. Connor is special, but he’s not special yet at 155 or 170. I still don’t think he’s beaten anyone at 155 (Eddie got lucky to even have the belt). He’s never beaten an actual Welterweight.
Maybe I’m not the target market bc I’ve never bought a Connor fight. I will buy Khabib v Ferguson though. Hopefully neither pulls a Matt Lindland and falls on the way into cage and knock themselves out.
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Post by jamesod on Jan 19, 2020 13:14:25 GMT -5
I think Masvidal is next. Khabib has Tony, then he's off for a month for Ramadan so assuming he beats Tony he wouldn't be ready for a Conor fight til late summer. And Conor said he wants to fight sooner than that.
I see no upside to Conor fighting anyone at 155 not named Khabib or Tony. And I see no upside to Conor fighting a massive 170 lb wrestler like Usman, Woodley, or Coby. So, unless GSP comes back for a huge money fight, that probably leaves Masvidal and Diaz. And while Conor clearly has some interest in finishing the trilogy with Diaz, negotiating a contract with a Diaz bro can take months. Masvidal is the guy who is ready willing and able, and makes sense. No?
If you can't see that Conor is special, I'm not sure what to tell you. The guy has massive power and pinpoint accuracy. Rewatch his Poirier and Alvarez fights. Those guys are studs - Alavarez was coming off the best four years of his career. And Conor destroyed them. Also, he looked better against Khabib than anyone has since Khabib's first UFC fight back in 2012. Winning a round against Khabib is no small feat.
Conor can lose to guys like Khabib, Usman, and Woodley, sure. But so could basically anyone on the planet at 170 or under.
I'd love to see the Masvidal fight. Conor can do really well at 170 if he's fighting smaller WW's who like to strike. But Masvidal has a chin, experience, and he fights smart. Could be a really good fight.
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Post by HumanAgent on Jan 19, 2020 23:22:26 GMT -5
I think Al did better against Khabob than Conor... I also think he's going to wait to see if that fight falls apart so he can step in last minute substitute.. I think a fight with Justin at 155 or fight with Jorge at 170.. Eddie went on to gwt his ock cleaned at ONE FC... I think we understand he's special but just dot like him. Since he beat Eddie in Nov 2016 he has o ly won the Cowboy fight. Might be accurate but it shouldn't matter if your not active enough.
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Post by jamesod on Jan 20, 2020 13:01:52 GMT -5
I think Al did better against Khabob than Conor... I also think he's going to wait to see if that fight falls apart so he can step in last minute substitute.. I think a fight with Justin at 155 or fight with Jorge at 170.. Eddie went on to gwt his ock cleaned at ONE FC... I think we understand he's special but just dot like him. Since he beat Eddie in Nov 2016 he has o ly won the Cowboy fight. Might be accurate but it shouldn't matter if your not active enough. In Al's fight against Khabib, Al didn't win a round on a single scorecard and lost the fight 50-44, 50-43, 50-43. Al is tough as nails and hit Khabib clean a couple of times, but he got dominated in that fight In Conor's fight against Khabib, he unanimously won round 3, the first UFC fighter to win a round against Khabib (although I think Gleison Tibeau has a good argument he should have won a round). But, he unanimously lost round two by 10-8. Then he got finished. So, I can see why you'd say that. But, I thought the winning of a round was more impressive than anything Al did against Khabib. Reasonable minds can differ. I don't think Justin is seriously on Conor's radar. That is not a big money fight and it's not like Conor needs a win against a fringe top-5 guy to make a claim for a title shot. If Conor wants a shot at the 155 belt, he just needs to let Dana know and then wait for the Khabib/Tony fight to play out.
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Post by CaveBearOG on Jan 20, 2020 16:40:34 GMT -5
I think a few of you arent giving much, if any, consideration to one thing.....and yes, win, lose, draw., I'm an Irish nut hugger, but there is, imho, no one in the mma world, that can hype a fight better than Conor McGregor?? He has no equal in the hype department.....and that folks is where the $$$$$$$ is......he could hype a fight against my one arm ass and probably do half a million buys just because its such an ass whoopin waiting to happen.....lol.
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Post by johncfc on Jan 20, 2020 18:23:12 GMT -5
It’ll be interesting to see who Conor fights next. Before his win against Cowboy, I didn’t think he would be interested in actually fighting Jorge. I kind of thought it was more talk and hype than anything.
After seeing him look pretty good at WW, I could see a fight with Jorge being more competitive. I’m not saying Conor would win, but it is a fun matchup.
Or he could fight CaveBear.
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Post by CaveBearOG on Jan 20, 2020 19:42:20 GMT -5
I'm still waiting for the oh, so, scary ball crushing maniac....of all time(YOU,YOU).... to venture south.....lol
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Post by johncfc on Jan 20, 2020 21:26:53 GMT -5
Well, I was just in Florida last month breaking necks and cashing some rather large cheques. I think you yanks are getting softer as time passes.
I had a great time in Florida, although some bikers attempted to spoil one night. Attempted. I almost feel bad for them now.
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Post by andrewk1988 on Jan 20, 2020 21:31:40 GMT -5
Cowboy looked like he showed up to get paid and was happy with that. Connor looked great. But I don't really see him winning against the best of the best at WW or LW. Plenty of fun fights for him, but the days of the belts are long gone.*
*barring the UFC pulling some shenanigans to make Connor/Nate 3 for an interim belt or something stupid like that.
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Post by MMAJim on Jan 20, 2020 21:51:26 GMT -5
@james
Connor is special. I penalize him for inactivity. Guys that show up and win win win win shouldn’t have to lose their title shots. If Connor is a draw and every fight with him is a $$ fight then I believe you’re burning up talent by using Connor to leap frog other title fights that have been earned.
The real reason why he can leap frog after any win, is bc Dana knows McG has major loss risk vs studs at both 155 and 170.
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Post by jamesod on Jan 21, 2020 10:43:53 GMT -5
I vowed never to question Conor's willingness to take on a challenge if he came back after Floyd and fought Khabib. That was the single worst matchup he could find at 155, by a long shot. But he challenged himself and that took big balls.
That said, I don't think he's dumb enough to want Usman or TWood or Colby at 170. Fighting a bad matchup (high level wrestler) when you're giving up 15-20 lbs is just a terrible idea. But I think he'd fight any other contender at 155 or 170 and I don't think Dana would say no to him. Dana knows Conor could walk away from MMA tomorrow if he doesn't get what he wants so no real chance this is a decision that Dana has much of a say in.
I just think the clear path is Masvidal now, then a title shot at 155 next. A loss to Masvidal at 170 wouldn't take Conor out of title contention at 155 in most fans' minds. And, especially if Tony beats Khabib, fans will be clamoring for Tony/Conor. But even if it's Khabib, I think fans will want to see that rematch.
But shit.. what do I know? Maybe he thinks Wonderboy would be a great challenge to his skills at 170, and I wouldn't disagree with that. Stylistically, it would be an interesting puzzle for Conor to try to figure out.
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