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Post by jonas0tt0 on May 1, 2018 13:48:56 GMT -5
Nate is currently in serious negotiations with the UFC for an August return in Los Angels. Reports are that Conor and Khahib are off the table but it will be someone in the top 5 which means:
Eddie Alvarez Dustin Poirier Kevin Lee Tony Fergonson - who is injured and wont be ready by August.
So out of those 3 options... im thinking Kevin Lee.
BUT WAIT THERE'S MORE...
What if they get him a fight at Welterweight? Only person in the top 5 who isnt booked is Robbie...
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Post by Tapout on May 1, 2018 14:59:27 GMT -5
It would have to be a needle mover for Nate to take it. Of those, id pick Lee.
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Post by ocmmafan on May 1, 2018 18:03:10 GMT -5
Gaethje or Alvarez. I doubt he would fight Kevin Lee or Poirier as they don't seem like big enough names. I could definitely see him taking a fight with Robbie if they go that route.
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Post by Premier on May 1, 2018 19:55:31 GMT -5
Is GSP booked?
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Post by HumanAgent on May 1, 2018 21:03:24 GMT -5
Looks like Eddie and Dustin might be facing off. Leaves Lee... I say Robbie
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2018 22:30:13 GMT -5
Cyborg at 155
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Post by TheStorm on May 2, 2018 8:56:21 GMT -5
Nate beats all of them. He’ll be the next Bisping and eventully become champ after a long, hard journey.
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Post by jonas0tt0 on May 2, 2018 9:11:11 GMT -5
Gaethje or Alvarez. I doubt he would fight Kevin Lee or Poirier as they don't seem like big enough names. I could definitely see him taking a fight with Robbie if they go that route. lol - GTFO here with Gaethje... He's not a bigger name than Kevin Lee, and Justin isnt in the top 5.
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Post by TheStorm on May 2, 2018 10:31:55 GMT -5
Gaethje or Alvarez. I doubt he would fight Kevin Lee or Poirier as they don't seem like big enough names. I could definitely see him taking a fight with Robbie if they go that route. lol - GTFO here with Gaethje... He's not a bigger name than Kevin Lee, and Justin isnt in the top 5. I’d imagine more people know Justin than Lee. Lee is awesome, but Justin’s sock em bopper style definitely gets the casuals attention.
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Post by jonas0tt0 on May 2, 2018 11:09:29 GMT -5
lol - GTFO here with Gaethje... He's not a bigger name than Kevin Lee, and Justin isnt in the top 5. I’d imagine more people know Justin than Lee. Lee is awesome, but Justin’s sock em bopper style definitely gets the casuals attention. Keep imagining, bro... here are the numbers: Kevin Lee Record 10/3 in UFC has been fighting under the UFC for almost 5 years 5 PPV cards / 5 Fight Nights / 1 TUF Finale / 1 TUF series Headlined his last 3 events Fought for title contention 6 months ago Justin Gaethje Record 1/2 in UFC has been fighting under the UFC for 4 months 1 PPV / 1 Fox / 1 TUF Finale Headlined 1 event Only win is over a gatekeeper
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Post by Premier on May 2, 2018 11:56:02 GMT -5
I’d imagine more people know Justin than Lee. Lee is awesome, but Justin’s sock em bopper style definitely gets the casuals attention. No way... here are the numbers Kevin Lee Record 10/3 in UFC has been fighting under the UFC for almost 5 years 5 PPV cards / 5 Fight Nights / 1 TUF Finale / 1 TUF series Headlined his last 3 events Fought for title contention 6 months ago Justin Gaethje Record 1/2 in UFC has been fighting under the UFC for 4 months 1 PPV / 1 Fox / 1 TUF Finale Headlined 1 event Only win is over a gatekeeper Dam. The research!
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Post by TheStorm on May 2, 2018 13:45:21 GMT -5
I’d imagine more people know Justin than Lee. Lee is awesome, but Justin’s sock em bopper style definitely gets the casuals attention. Keep imagining, bro... here are the numbers: Kevin Lee Record 10/3 in UFC has been fighting under the UFC for almost 5 years 5 PPV cards / 5 Fight Nights / 1 TUF Finale / 1 TUF series Headlined his last 3 events Fought for title contention 6 months ago Justin Gaethje Record 1/2 in UFC has been fighting under the UFC for 4 months 1 PPV / 1 Fox / 1 TUF Finale Headlined 1 event Only win is over a gatekeeper We are not talking about experience, or skill, but who is more of a big name correct? By big name, I imagine we are talking about who is more well known? Hard to actually say who is more well known, but I’m assuming based on the fact that casuals typically love someone like Justin, and will remember his name.
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Post by jonas0tt0 on May 2, 2018 13:58:36 GMT -5
Keep imagining, bro... here are the numbers: Kevin Lee Record 10/3 in UFC has been fighting under the UFC for almost 5 years 5 PPV cards / 5 Fight Nights / 1 TUF Finale / 1 TUF series Headlined his last 3 events Fought for title contention 6 months ago Justin Gaethje Record 1/2 in UFC has been fighting under the UFC for 4 months 1 PPV / 1 Fox / 1 TUF Finale Headlined 1 event Only win is over a gatekeeper We are not talking about experience, or skill, but who is more of a big name correct? By big name, I imagine we are talking about who is more well known? Hard to actually say who is more well known, but I’m assuming based on the fact that casuals typically love someone like Justin, and will remember his name. We're talking about draw which is going to be based on exposure. Kevin Lee has the numbers to prove he has more exposure. Where are these facts you speak of? So far, all you've posted are imaginations and assumptions.
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Post by daywork on May 2, 2018 14:10:13 GMT -5
Why should Nate get any special treatment? He should fight whoever they put in from of him.
Out of the names listed above, He would only have a chance vs Alvarez and Gaethje. Everyone else beats him (including Cyborg lol)
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Post by jonas0tt0 on May 2, 2018 14:14:01 GMT -5
Why should Nate get any special treatment? He should fight whoever they put in from of him. Out of the names listed above, He would only have a chance vs Alvarez and Gaethje. Everyone else beats him (including Cyborg lol) Because the UFC is DESPERATE for fighters who can draw right now, and the Diaz brothers draw. Nate's stock got a huge bump when he fought Conor, and now he has leverage with the UFC. That's why he gets special treatment.
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Post by daywork on May 2, 2018 14:21:34 GMT -5
Why should Nate get any special treatment? He should fight whoever they put in from of him. Out of the names listed above, He would only have a chance vs Alvarez and Gaethje. Everyone else beats him (including Cyborg lol) Because the UFC is DESPERATE for fighters who can draw right now, and the Diaz brothers draw. Nate's stock got a huge bump when he fought Conor, and now he has leverage with the UFC. That's why he gets special treatment. Are we sure he is a big draw? When has he headlined a PPV when he was the bigger name? Conor can fight the guy that works at 7-11 and people would buy the fight. I don't know if its the same for Nate or Nick.
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Post by jonas0tt0 on May 2, 2018 14:33:12 GMT -5
C'mon man... you guys are behind the ball today. The exposure he received from the Conor fights propelled him into mainstream sports media. He's one of the few fighters to headline two events that did over 1 million buys.
UFC 196 = 1.3 million buys UFC 202 = 1.6 million buys
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Post by daywork on May 2, 2018 14:37:04 GMT -5
C'mon man... you guys are behind the ball today. The exposure he received from the Conor fights propelled him into mainstream sports media. He's one of the few fighters to headline two events that did over 1 million buys. UFC 196 = 1.3 million buys UFC 202 = 1.6 million buys That is because Conor was the headliner. Not Nate. UFC 205 Conor vs Alvares did 1.3. So is Alvares just as a big name? I'm just saying, without Conor, Nate won't sell well..
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Post by jonas0tt0 on May 2, 2018 14:42:18 GMT -5
C'mon man... you guys are behind the ball today. The exposure he received from the Conor fights propelled him into mainstream sports media. He's one of the few fighters to headline two events that did over 1 million buys. UFC 196 = 1.3 million buys UFC 202 = 1.6 million buys That is because Conor was the headliner. Not Nate. UFC 205 Conor vs Alvares did 1.3. So is Alvares just as a big name? I'm just saying, without Conor, Nate won't sell well.. Of course it was because of Conor, but that's still over a million people who SAW HIM BEAT CONOR. On top of that, his "doesnt give a fuck" persona captures people's interest. Even though Alvaez also fought Conor, unlike Nate, Eddie got his ass beat and doesnt have a personality that sells. Im not saying Nate is the biggest draw in the UFC right now, but he'll sure do a lot better than anyone else currently ranked in his weight class (other than Conor), and probably draw more than 90% of the entire UFC roster.
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Post by jonas0tt0 on May 2, 2018 14:52:06 GMT -5
One of, if not THE biggest fight that can be made in the UFC right now is Conor vs Nate 3. But you're telling me that has nothing to do with Nate being a draw?
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Post by HumanAgent on May 2, 2018 15:00:24 GMT -5
While I agree with what Jonas is saying, personally, I would love to seen Nate vs Gaethje... I think it would be a better fight, that's just my opinion.
I would rather him fight Robbie. Woodley is reaching but you can't put anything past these new owners.
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Post by jonas0tt0 on May 2, 2018 15:03:53 GMT -5
While I agree with what Jonas is saying, personally, I would love to seen Nate vs Gaethje... I think it would be a better fight, that's just my opinion. I would rather him fight Robbie. Woodley is reaching but you can't put anything past these new owners. No argument there. For entertainment purposes I would want to see Justin vs Nate the most.
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Post by daywork on May 2, 2018 15:05:03 GMT -5
One of, if not THE biggest fight that can be made in the UFC right now is Conor vs Nate 3. But you're telling me that has nothing to do with Nate being a draw? Maybe he is. But shouldn't he have to prove he is? When he headlined a couple fight night cards the ratings were middle of the road. Just saying, the last thing the fans remember is Nate losing...
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Post by HumanAgent on May 2, 2018 15:11:46 GMT -5
One of, if not THE biggest fight that can be made in the UFC right now is Conor vs Nate 3. But you're telling me that has nothing to do with Nate being a draw? Maybe he is. But shouldn't he have to prove he is? When he headlined a couple fight night cards the ratings were middle of the road. Just saying, the last thing the fans remember is Nate losing... Well, we're going to find out
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Post by TheStorm on May 2, 2018 15:17:19 GMT -5
Jonas, you idiot, of course I am assuming things, I clearly stated that. You are as well, and you seem to have this idea that because someone has been “exposed” to the public multiple times, that they are a big name, regardless if anyone likes them or remembers them.
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Post by jonas0tt0 on May 2, 2018 15:19:34 GMT -5
One of, if not THE biggest fight that can be made in the UFC right now is Conor vs Nate 3. But you're telling me that has nothing to do with Nate being a draw? Maybe he is. But shouldn't he have to prove he is? When he headlined a couple fight night cards the ratings were middle of the road. Just saying, the last thing the fans remember is Nate losing... I agree he should have to prove himself, but that's not how this current UFC works. There are certain fighters who get a pass because no matter what their record is, they sell. Examples of this: Brock Lesnar Anderson Silva Nick Diaz Nate Diaz GSP These fighters are able to jump the line and get special treatment.
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Post by jonas0tt0 on May 2, 2018 15:26:19 GMT -5
Jonas, you idiot, of course I am assuming things, I clearly stated that. You are as well, and you seem to have this idea that because someone has been “exposed” to the public multiple times, that they are a big name, regardless if anyone likes them or remembers them. Im not assuming anything. Im providing data to to prove my point. You on the other hand are making assumptions based on your imagination. I get it... you grew up watching Mr Rogers and now you think you can come on here and pretend it's "The Land of Make Believe"... well i've got news for you.... My name's not King Friday and you wont find Daniel the Tiger on this message board, so let's stick to real life shit, mmmmmmkay?
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Post by TheStorm on May 2, 2018 16:20:34 GMT -5
Jonas, you idiot, of course I am assuming things, I clearly stated that. You are as well, and you seem to have this idea that because someone has been “exposed” to the public multiple times, that they are a big name, regardless if anyone likes them or remembers them. Im not assuming anything. Im providing data to to prove my point. You on the other hand are making assumptions based on your imagination. I get it... you grew up watching Mr Rogers and now you think you can come on here and pretend it's "The Land of Make Believe"... well i've got news for you.... My name's not King Friday and you wont find Daniel the Tiger on this message board, so let's stick to real life shit, mmmmmmkay? Your using irrelevant facts to determine your personal opinion. GTFO newb.
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Post by jonas0tt0 on May 2, 2018 16:21:46 GMT -5
^ your'd
Who's the idiot now?
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Post by TheStorm on May 2, 2018 21:28:16 GMT -5
^ your'd Who's the idiot now? LOL don’t compare my typo to your fallacious logic dummy.
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