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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2017 20:33:44 GMT -5
As Water Cooler Moderator, one point of clarification here. In the Water Cooler Thread (and I dare say in all of the OD): Failure to rebuke ≠ Endorsement of Thought For example, if I did not, somewhere in the history of the OD, rebuke "Fuck that nigger Obama" written by someone else, that would not mean that I endorse that statement (and likely I never actually read that post). I just didn't want anyone to get the impression that "Fuck that nigger Obama" got a rousing endorsement here.The fact that you have to clarify the board's sentiment kind of speaks volumes, no? I for one wouldn't be surprised if some gave the above a rousing endorsement. Cyber in 3...2...
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Post by andrewk1988 on Oct 24, 2017 20:41:20 GMT -5
You aren't trying to debate anything other than "well I bet this will work out better than the way Hillary (or insert other democrat) did/would handle it. You're charging me to debate with facts while you use hypotheticals and opinions. Not to but in... But do you have this serious dislike for trump or something? I feel like the guy could have donned a superman suit, flew into fucking Puerto Rico and Houston, saved every woman and child, fed the hungry, built homes for the homeless and you would still find a reason to shit on it. My apologies if I am not spot on correct about this. But you just seem like the guy shot your dog or touched you as a young child. I feel a grudge being held. No? I feel like I've addressed that pretty clearly in this thread. But I can see how you can take that from that post. I just don't like fanboyism of any elected leaders.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2017 20:44:51 GMT -5
Not to but in... But do you have this serious dislike for trump or something? I feel like the guy could have donned a superman suit, flew into fucking Puerto Rico and Houston, saved every woman and child, fed the hungry, built homes for the homeless and you would still find a reason to shit on it. My apologies if I am not spot on correct about this. But you just seem like the guy shot your dog or touched you as a young child. I feel a grudge being held. No? I feel like I've addressed that pretty clearly in this thread. But I can see how you can take that from that post. I just don't like fanboyism of any elected leaders. I don't read all of this. I'd go insane. I also don't care for fan boyism. I feel you on that one. When the love in here gets to the point where I feel dude could drop his drawers and some of the posters here would be pushing one another out of the way, I'll speak up about it. And we are not far from that point imo, lol. But with all seriousness, do you think you are changing anyone's opinion on here?
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Post by ocmmafan on Oct 24, 2017 20:59:22 GMT -5
You aren't trying to debate anything other than "well I bet this will work out better than the way Hillary (or insert other democrat) did/would handle it. You're charging me to debate with facts while you use hypotheticals and opinions. You are claiming he changed something and you don't like it. Yet, he changed the way the previous party decided to use executive authority and he delegated MORE authority to Mathis. So you get to BOTH bitch about it but offer no alternative, no specifics as to why it is bad AND refuse to compare it to past administrations? So basically, you don't have an argument other than to bitch and moan about Trump. Which is what i said in the first place. And how is using a VERY specific and historically accurate example of Benghazi a hypothetical? LOL. I give up. Keep bitching about Trump. At least I was willing to give you a chance but good luck finding another taker. And I'm not insulted about DoD vs DHS. I am stoked about some of the new enforcement actions Trump is taking and the direction ICE is headed, and the new priorities. But, we are way too big with our hands in way too many pies, which disgusts me (and should disgust everyone).
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Post by andrewk1988 on Oct 24, 2017 21:28:19 GMT -5
I feel like I've addressed that pretty clearly in this thread. But I can see how you can take that from that post. I just don't like fanboyism of any elected leaders. I don't read all of this. I'd go insane. I also don't care for fan boyism. I feel you on that one. When the love in here gets to the point where I feel dude could drop his drawers and some of the posters here would be pushing one another out of the way, I'll speak up about it. And we are not far from that point imo, lol. But with all seriousness, do you think you are changing anyone's opinion on here? No, but I did mean everything I said that I used to look up to some of the guys who are posters on here, in a weird internet forum way. I spent as much time getting perspectives here during my formative years as anywhere. Mostly because I mistook anti Obama administration bullshit as critical thinking. It is disheartening to be an adult with my own perspective and see that it's all aboard the Trump wagon with zero critical thinking.
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Post by Baph on Oct 24, 2017 23:20:36 GMT -5
My posts directed at you are about you being openly and blatantly hypocritical. You made a post over the weekend claiming that you don't care what Trump says, but you do care what he does. And then went on to imply that you don't have a problem with anything he's done. Then you just posted "The DoD is completely out of control". Now I get that the DoD has been out of control long before Trump. But, literally one of the first major things he did was give the DoD more power. What in god's fucking name . . . your reading comprehension needs work, man. That's all I can say. I never said I don't care what Trump says and I sure as fuck didn't say I don't have a problem with anything he's done. That's a wholesale Jackyl style lie. I've literally made lists on here of shit I oppose Trump on. Long-ass lists, dude. Did you miss all that in your self-appointed expert on everyone class? Your fucking ego is about 5 spots too high in the pecking order. You also took the time to imply my Obama critiques over the past eight years were simply race based and not merit based, which just settles the argument once and for all -- you're not fucking paying attention. The fucking Vegas hotel shooter had better accuracy than half the shit your throwing out in here.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2017 2:16:41 GMT -5
The fact that you have to clarify the board's sentiment kind of speaks volumes, no? I for one wouldn't be surprised if some gave the above a rousing endorsement. Cyber in 3...2... Fuck off. I'll be in my safe space, hiding from these offensive words about The Transformative Socialist One.
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Post by andrewk1988 on Oct 25, 2017 6:10:20 GMT -5
Honestly, no. Not because it's not pathological, manipulative, narcissistic behavior, but because I'm fucking numb to it, and not just from from Trump, and not because a viable alternative wouldn't have spoken like this constantly. Literally don't care. Can't care. It's too much, too often, and too pervasive. What do I care about? This executive order he just signed that says I don't have to have birth control included in my heath care insurance if I'm a man. Or pediatric dental coverage if I'm a senior. I can build a plan for me. Common fucking sense shit that's going to unravel some of the worst parts of Obamacare and let me have some choice and freedom and ultimately a cheaper plan. Or how about his proposal to bring all overseas income (US companies HQ'd in Ireland, Cayman Islands, Switzerland and other tax havens to avoid massive US corp tax rates -- highest in the world) with no penalty and a one time tax holiday? These are things that actually matter, change communities, change lives, and he's getting these, for the most part, right. Side note: if we're the freest country in the world, why do we have the highest incarceration rate and the highest business taxes on the goddamened planet?
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Post by andrewk1988 on Oct 25, 2017 6:11:58 GMT -5
It's a possibility that I missed different sentiments or you made them when I wasn't active here. But from what I've seen it's normalization and support for Trump from you.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2017 12:02:11 GMT -5
I don't read all of this. I'd go insane. I also don't care for fan boyism. I feel you on that one. When the love in here gets to the point where I feel dude could drop his drawers and some of the posters here would be pushing one another out of the way, I'll speak up about it. And we are not far from that point imo, lol. But with all seriousness, do you think you are changing anyone's opinion on here? No, but I did mean everything I said that I used to look up to some of the guys who are posters on here, in a weird internet forum way. I spent as much time getting perspectives here during my formative years as anywhere. Mostly because I mistook anti Obama administration bullshit as critical thinking. It is disheartening to be an adult with my own perspective and see that it's all aboard the Trump wagon with zero critical thinking. I get that 100%. I too have found a perspective on quite a few things that I've gotten entirely from posters on here. I think its great to have a voice from different states and different styled backgrounds on here all chiming in. It's gotten rather right, but it is what is. I still enjoy the occasional banter. And I still pick up perspectives that I may or may not have heard elsewhere.
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Post by Baph on Oct 25, 2017 12:42:50 GMT -5
Honestly, no. Not because it's not pathological, manipulative, narcissistic behavior, but because I'm fucking numb to it, and not just from from Trump, and not because a viable alternative wouldn't have spoken like this constantly. Literally don't care. Can't care. It's too much, too often, and too pervasive. What do I care about? This executive order he just signed that says I don't have to have birth control included in my heath care insurance if I'm a man. Or pediatric dental coverage if I'm a senior. I can build a plan for me. Common fucking sense shit that's going to unravel some of the worst parts of Obamacare and let me have some choice and freedom and ultimately a cheaper plan. Or how about his proposal to bring all overseas income (US companies HQ'd in Ireland, Cayman Islands, Switzerland and other tax havens to avoid massive US corp tax rates -- highest in the world) with no penalty and a one time tax holiday? These are things that actually matter, change communities, change lives, and he's getting these, for the most part, right. Side note: if we're the freest country in the world, why do we have the highest incarceration rate and the highest business taxes on the goddamened planet? You're a fucking simpleton. That's all there is to it. I literally started that post by saying Trump's tweets are "pathological, manipulative, narcissistic" and it happens so often I can't even process it anymore. I've also called his tweets juvenile and hugely counter productive. If you consider that blind support, you're exactly as dumb as you fucking act. I then went on to highlight a whopping TWO positives, but then ended with a critique of the prison system, which Trump fully supports, as well as the war on drugs which feeds it. He also supports asset forfeiture and imminent domain. He appointed his shitty kids and their spouses and the GOP chairman to his cabinet. I've got more critiques of Trump than you've got lame-ass mom jokes. How you took this to mean I agree with everything Trump does . . . well, it just shows your agenda. You're a dunce with a bad case of Dunning-Kruger who thinks he's in here calling spades spades, and you're just making an ass of yourself.
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Post by Baph on Oct 25, 2017 14:29:33 GMT -5
Third time in six months I've seen similar reports coming in several weeks after a big hysteria. It's almost always overblown if not outright fake. The culture of white supremacy and racism is a fantasy of progressive SJWs and when they can't find monsters to fight, they invent them. reason.com/blog/2017/10/25/racist-graffiti-incidents-at-eastern-mic
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Post by andrewk1988 on Oct 25, 2017 14:41:52 GMT -5
You're a sensitive fella. You think I have a superiority complex? I'm a nerd on a fucking message board just like everyone else. I pave parking lots every day for a living. I don't think I'm anything special. Just because you're used to people not challenging anything you say, doesn't make me the bad guy. But go ahead and ignore it.
We are both apparently misinterpreting each other. I don't know what to tell you about it other than just put me in ignore? At least I don't have to try to use personal insults when I discuss things.
P.s. "blind support" may have been a tad hyperbolic.
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Post by andrewk1988 on Oct 25, 2017 15:08:06 GMT -5
No, but I did mean everything I said that I used to look up to some of the guys who are posters on here, in a weird internet forum way. I spent as much time getting perspectives here during my formative years as anywhere. Mostly because I mistook anti Obama administration bullshit as critical thinking. It is disheartening to be an adult with my own perspective and see that it's all aboard the Trump wagon with zero critical thinking. I get that 100%. I too have found a perspective on quite a few things that I've gotten entirely from posters on here. I think its great to have a voice from different states and different styled backgrounds on here all chiming in. It's gotten rather right, but it is what is. I still enjoy the occasional banter. And I still pick up perspectives that I may or may not have heard elsewhere. Right that's one of my favorite things about this forum. It's just gotten a little circle jerky and not many others are throwing in other perspectives so I add my own. But anytime I, or anyone, have an opinion that goes against the grain here, I'm apparently just trying to push some made-up fantasy "agenda", while getting accused of making things up. In all honesty, that is my master plan though. Come to this little corner of the internet with relatively nobody in it, so I can work an agenda I was sent to propagate. I can't believe I've been foiled so easily.
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Post by Baph on Oct 25, 2017 23:02:47 GMT -5
You're a sensitive fella. You think I have a superiority complex? I'm a nerd on a fucking message board just like everyone else. I pave parking lots every day for a living. I don't think I'm anything special. Just because you're used to people not challenging anything you say, doesn't make me the bad guy. But go ahead and ignore it. We are both apparently misinterpreting each other. I don't know what to tell you about it other than just put me in ignore? At least I don't have to try to use personal insults when I discuss things.
P.s. "blind support" may have been a tad hyperbolic. Go fuck yourself. You literally called me a racist, a fraud, a pussy and made a vulgar "fucked your mom" joke in the past 4-5 posts. You're more full of shit than a fucking port-a-potty.
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Post by andrewk1988 on Oct 25, 2017 23:30:37 GMT -5
I never called you a racist, nor do I think you are a racist. Talk about reading comprehension. I know I used the "fuck that nigger Obama" reference in a post that I quoted you in, but in that particular paragraph I was referencing the board in general. Unfair to lump you in, should have made a separate post for that particular thought, but it was part of a stream.
I said pussy after you said "I give up" and said "I'd say it sounds like something I'd say, but since you said it, I'll say I would have but I was busy fucking your mother." in an obvious facetious joke AFTER you (dead seriously) tried to e-tough guy me with the "How about fuck you? How's that sound?" because you were dodging addressing literally anything I actually posted about.
Way to play the victim tough guy.
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Post by Angelo on Oct 26, 2017 0:36:26 GMT -5
Just spent 10 minutes listing about my dad bitching about Powell (who likely to become the next Fed chair). I zoned out because I was in the middle of other shit but "fucking lawyer" "not an economist" "fiscal *something" "fed reserve for managing inflation, not dealing with unemployment" etc...
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Post by MMAJim on Oct 26, 2017 8:33:13 GMT -5
Just spent 10 minutes listing about my dad bitching about Powell (who likely to become the next Fed chair). I zoned out because I was in the middle of other shit but "fucking lawyer" "not an economist" "fiscal *something" "fed reserve for managing inflation, not dealing with unemployment" etc... I hate to get all official here, but this certainly seems like a "Random Thought" moment rather than a "Water Cooler," moment. Some might argue that it could have been handled via post it note to yourself, but that is another discussion altogether.
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Post by ocmmafan on Oct 26, 2017 9:17:16 GMT -5
So Bush senior, wheel chair bound with dementia in his fucking 90s, does some ass patting while dropping his "David Cop-a-feel" joke and woman now want to pretend they were "sexually assaulted"? GTFO. These claimed offenses occurred in 2014 and 2016. He's a harmless wheelchair prone, old man that is feeble and out of his mind. What kind of attention whore would use that to claim sexual assault? Only some cuntbag hollywood victim.
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Post by MMAJim on Oct 26, 2017 9:34:23 GMT -5
So Bush senior, wheel chair bound with dementia in his fucking 90s, does some ass patting while dropping his "David Cop-a-feel" joke and woman now want to pretend they were "sexually assaulted"? GTFO. These claimed offenses occurred in 2014 and 2016. He's a harmless wheelchair prone, old man that is feeble and out of his mind. What kind of attention whore would use that to claim sexual assault? Only some cuntbag hollywood victim. That was basically the response of all females in my office. Now, if she was a staffer and he was her boss. I'd have more concern. Honestly, without knowing his cognitive state, and what the actual act was, I'd still say I'm pretty confident that this isn't the kind of pain and suffering that needed to be suppressed for years and then released.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2017 9:40:57 GMT -5
If the 20% corporate rate becomes reality, I would probably push a few of you out of the way if Trump decided to drop his trousers. Actually I'd probably put my Knuckles on and just drop every fucking one of you.
Not really. Tax rate doesn't make me gay for anyone. However that extra 15% would look so good in my pocket.
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Post by andrewk1988 on Oct 26, 2017 11:55:21 GMT -5
If the 20% corporate rate becomes reality, I would probably push a few of you out of the way if Trump decided to drop his trousers. Actually I'd probably put my Knuckles on and just drop every fucking one of you. Not really. Tax rate doesn't make me gay for anyone. However that extra 15% would look so good in my pocket. Even for me, I make about 75k taxed, it would mean a noticeable cash increase. But the same "well the growth in the economy will offset the lost revenue" line of thinking from the Reagan tax cuts didn't really work out so well in the long run. I wish it came with more of a rollback on spending, especially militarily. But we can't always get what we want.
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Post by PatSox on Oct 26, 2017 13:34:19 GMT -5
Wait.....wait.......wait. Andrew fucked Baph's mom?
I speed read this page, so I might have missed something. Just give me the jist
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Post by jamesod on Oct 26, 2017 14:04:58 GMT -5
Wait.....wait.......wait. Andrew fucked Baph's mom? I speed read this page, so I might have missed something. Just give me the jist *made sweet, sweet love to *gist
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Post by Angelo on Oct 26, 2017 14:39:40 GMT -5
Just spent 10 minutes listing about my dad bitching about Powell (who likely to become the next Fed chair). I zoned out because I was in the middle of other shit but "fucking lawyer" "not an economist" "fiscal *something" "fed reserve for managing inflation, not dealing with unemployment" etc... I hate to get all official here, but this certainly seems like a "Random Thought" moment rather than a "Water Cooler," moment. Some might argue that it could have been handled via post it note to yourself, but that is another discussion altogether. Well I meant to add, what do people here think about Powell now that they are reporting it looks like he's about to be the next Federal Reserve chief, but I got distracted.
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Post by PatSox on Oct 26, 2017 15:30:15 GMT -5
Wait.....wait.......wait. Andrew fucked Baph's mom? I speed read this page, so I might have missed something. Just give me the jist *made sweet, sweet love to *gist Here's something you never hear anyone say. "He made love to me....in the ASS" ![](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRabNW6WEXYjBUJW5RLKmSTdFueY1xaIQsYLF-316fLFxFs7VPm)
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Post by andrewk1988 on Oct 26, 2017 15:37:31 GMT -5
Ass sex is the devil, that's why. There's no love to be had in that hole.
Had anyone seen Norm's new stand-up?
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Post by Angelo on Oct 26, 2017 17:57:06 GMT -5
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Post by johncfc on Oct 26, 2017 18:30:09 GMT -5
Wait.....wait.......wait. Andrew fucked Baph's mom? I speed read this page, so I might have missed something. Just give me the jist Wait....wait.....wait. Baph's mom is blind?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2017 19:41:49 GMT -5
*made sweet, sweet love to *gist Here's something you never hear anyone say. "He made love to me....in the ASS" ![](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRabNW6WEXYjBUJW5RLKmSTdFueY1xaIQsYLF-316fLFxFs7VPm) You haven't met some of my ex's.
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